Umm... What on earth has just happened?

[Torwin]

I've started the demo with Portugal. Of course I got dragged into a war against the French by my English 'allies' (hmm...) on day one, and soon after I've attacked Morocco for Casablanca. The Morroccans came with a peace offer some time later, the war ended victoriously. That allowed me to give a bit more attention to the English-French campaign. I've transferred some units to Ireland, destroyed a small French army stationed there and ended the French occupation of Meath. I also managed to completely destroy the French fleet, winning around a dozen ships back from them, and blockaded every single French port. Calais was still under the enemy control, but the warscore was in our favour (not much, around 6%), so I thought I'd keep the blockading for a while to build their war exhaustion, then maybe help England in any land battles should they decide to invade. I've also recruited a few more units meanwhile to do that myself in case they didn't. However, maybe three months after I started the blockading the war suddenly ended. No message of any sort, just an entry in the log about 'The End of the Hundred Years War' (which,by the way, in 1497 would be more like a Hundred-and-Fifty Years Old War ) for both France and England. The French got Calais and, to make things worse, Casablanca suddenly was returned to Morocco.
So I'm guessing that England have surrendered, ceding my lad to a neutral (Muslim, to boot) party in the process - I can understand that, never really trusted them anyway. What I do not understand though is why surrender in the first place??? We were winning the damn war! The French could do nothing but hold back, I was slowly getting ready for an invasion, the war exhaustion was pretty much even (about 4%) for both sides, but supposedly going up faster for the French... Why give up? Is this some sort of AI logic I don't understand? :angry:

 

[Revshawn]

Here's the thing...that warscore counter in your war screen only accounts for the warscore between YOUR country and the enemy alliance, not your alliance vs their alliance. You can check the latter warscore via the ledger in the current wars menu. The problem with the war is that you'll have to break the siege of Calais. The French get a ticking war score as long as they hold that territory since it is the object of the war and as long as they hold onto it, you're bound to run into negative warscore as a war pretty quick.

The good news is that you can stop that silly territory handing-over stuff by war leaders pretty quickly. Just pull up the regular warscreen by clicking on the french shield with a sword on it and deselect the "Allow our war leader to negotiate for us" box. Then what happened to you during that game won't happen again.

Take care! Have a good game.

 

[Heatth]

I think you were actually losing the war without noticing. The warscore you can see when you click on the war shield in the lower left is only the war score of your side of the war. If you went to England's or France's diplomacy tab and mouse over over their war you would see a different number there. France probably had a high war score over England due to holding their war goal (Calais). Yeah, it is is fairly confusing. I big fail in the UI in my opinion, which is surprising given how much better EU4 is over EU3 in every other aspect.

Furthermore, the AI also consider the relative forces when broking a peace deal. Are you sure France's army was defeated? I find this doubtful, considering their power. I doubt your invasion plans would see future.

ninja'd

 

[Jokurr]

Ah... so that is why I had the same thing happen to me with Casablanca. In my game I entered the war with England against France but then just kinda ignored it, and focused on getting Casablanca. About a month after I won that war Casablanca suddenly reverted to Morocco and I had no idea why... must've been England negotiating.

 

[Torwin]

Here's the thing...that warscore counter in your war screen only accounts for the warscore between YOUR country and the enemy alliance, not your alliance vs their alliance. You can check the latter warscore via the ledger in the current wars menu. The problem with the war is that you'll have to break the siege of Calais. The French get a ticking war score as long as they hold that territory since it is the object of the war and as long as they hold onto it, you're bound to run into negative warscore as a war pretty quick.

Ah... That would explain it, thanks

The good news is that you can stop that silly territory handing-over stuff by ending alliances pretty quickly. Just pull up the regular warscreen by clicking on the french shield with a sword on it and deselect the "Allow our war leader to negotiate for us" box. Then what happened to you during that game won't happen again.

Take care! Have a good game.

I had no idea that option was there - cheers!