Umm... Forts and blockading movements

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So I haven't closely followed the changes concering army movement and Forts, but I am guessing it is wrong for me to be stuck in Paris??? (I cannot at all move my army anywhere here)

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And same thing happened earlier when Lyon was occupied. I could only move the troops in Auvergne towards Lyon and nowhere else... :O

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So question is: WAD with the new mechanics or just a bug??...
 
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Occupied Forts now also have ZoC meaning that in the above screenshot for example the fortress in Picardie and in Paris blocked you off.
 
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It would seem that an absolute block from moving into your own territory is not intended, but that they haven't found a good solution to avoid it yet. It does beg the question why the forts had to be updated in function for *this patch* then, since this is not a Cossacks feature, but hey it's not my project to manage :/.
 

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If we made it so you can always move in own territory, then enemy-controlled forts would have no effect whatsoever.

We're testing a solution for giving stuck units an out though.
 
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If we made it so you can always move in own territory, then enemy-controlled forts would have no effect whatsoever.

We're testing a solution for giving stuck units an out though.

You could make it so that for the purposes of ZoC, occupied provinces don't count as "own territory", but applying that in practice would require some hybridization of the previous fort rules and what we saw in 1.14.0.
 
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If we made it so you can always move in own territory, then enemy-controlled forts would have no effect whatsoever.
Hmm, I always thought that this was a great rule. Territory controlled by you is controlled by you after all, not the fort nearby.

I like the forts 2.0, but too restrictive rules make them an unpredictable mess. Unpredictable mess =/= fun.