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If a character is ugly to the point of having a trait about it, there should be some uglifications in place, like a deformed face. It's even imersion breaking when you see a beautiful woman with the 'Ugly' trait. Also, actual harelips.
 

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And fat women with deformed faces with "attractive" trait.Yep sure paradox.
 

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I agree, it would be nice if the Habsburg jew ugliness showed it's face.

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Poor bloke...still...I feel worse for the woman who was promised to him!
 

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If a character is ugly to the point of having a trait about it, there should be some uglifications in place, like a deformed face. It's even imersion breaking when you see a beautiful woman with the 'Ugly' trait. Also, actual harelips.

Well my "ugly" character had triple chins, a big nose and small beady eyes.
 

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And who shall be the judge?
Your taste, my taste or perhaps what we think was considered beautiful/ugly in the CK era?

Personally I prefer blonds, and as there are hardly any blonds in CK I've come to the conclusion (by using your logic) that the vast majority of females in the game should be given the ugly trait...
 

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its too subjective what is ugly and what is not

Actually the more we look into the issue, the more we realize that ugliness and attractiveness is not nearly as subjective as most people think. There does seem to be a universal recognition of what is good and bad looking, regardless of culture or upbringing.
 

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And who shall be the judge?
Your taste, my taste or perhaps what we think was considered beautiful/ugly in the CK era?

Personally I prefer blonds, and as there are hardly any blonds in CK I've come to the conclusion (by using your logic) that the vast majority of females in the game should be given the ugly trait...

Are you saying someone could find the guy I posted attractive? Some guys prefer blondes, some brunettes, but everyone can see ugly when it stares them in the face.

Find me the person who sees this as 'physically beautiful'...

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And dwarves should have no portrait because they are too short?
Hunchbacks you only see the top of their head and their hunchback?
Strong people should have strong facial features and look buff?
Weak people should look sickly and thin?
Genius should wear monocles?
And fair people should be gingernut asians? (As an example)

Where do we stop?
 

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A character with the trait attractive or ugly would be someone deemed attractive or ugly by the vast majority of people around them, even if it what is attractive/ugly is a subjective opinion that differs from person to person, one could still come to the conclusion that a character deemed as "ugly" would have some sort of physical traits that makes the majority of people around them think of them as such. Also, since both of these traits aren't too common in the game, one could the assumption that a character deemed ugly (or attractive), must truly be godawfully ugly in some sense, since the entire world thinks less of them for it too, and vice versa for attractive.
 

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I agree, it would be nice if the Habsburg jew ugliness showed it's face.

Wtf?! Seriously, why would you even write that?! That has got to be one of the most racist things I've seen on this board, insinuating Jews have some sort of ugliness to them...
 

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Wtf?! Seriously, why would you even write that?! That has got to be one of the most racist things I've seen on this board, insinuating Jews have some sort of ugliness to them...

I'm almost 100% certain that's a typo. The Hapsburgs aren't really well known for being Jews, although everyone knows of their infamous jaws.
 

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Wtf?! Seriously, why would you even write that?! That has got to be one of the most racist things I've seen on this board, insinuating Jews have some sort of ugliness to them...

You are literally the greatest dumbass I've ever had the displeasure to have any communication with.

Sethcanes said:
A character with the trait attractive or ugly would be someone deemed attractive or ugly by the vast majority of people around them, even if it what is attractive/ugly is a subjective opinion that differs from person to person, one could still come to the conclusion that a character deemed as "ugly" would have some sort of physical traits that makes the majority of people around them think of them as such. Also, since both of these traits aren't too common in the game, one could the assumption that a character deemed ugly (or attractive), must truly be godawfully ugly in some sense, since the entire world thinks less of them for it too, and vice versa for attractive.

Yes! I couldn't agree more!
By the logic of the people posting above, there shouldn't even BE attractive, ugly, strong, genius, quick, slow, etc. traits in the game, because it "offends" some people, or beauty is "on the inside" or "subjective".
NO. As TheGreatSnoop clearly demonstrated with his picture above, there are universal cultural indicators of what beauty is. Facial and body symmetry and aesthetics, and a lack of deformations determine beauty, not hair color, eye color, or skin color. Thus albso437's argument is rendered moot.
Facial and body symmetry, aesthetics, and good proportion are all OBJECTIVE, scientifically proven. So, this would be amazing to implement.