U.S.A. vs Mexico

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Is there any practical way (i.e., without screwing up economic development with a really long war or overly large military buildup) to achieve roughly historical results in the inital (historical) Mexican war? Mexico by then has a fairly large military - I managed a decent (49% as I recall) war score, but it netted me only Texas, New Mexico, and one province in California. Looks like I'll need to fight them again to get Arizona, Utah, Nevada, and most of California.

Also, funny, probably well known but new to me "strategy," or at least it could be a strategy but I didn't plan it (honestly I probably wouldn't do it on purpose as it seems to be a bit exploitive). I traded a couple of my Canadian claims to Texas for claims in Colorado (which in turn had been taken from Mexico). When Texas was annexed by Mexico, Mexico got the claims, which then did not revert to England when I settled on the 49th parallel. So now England can't form British Columbia without going to war against Mexico.

 

[Legosim]

Is there any practical way (i.e., without screwing up economic development with a really long war or overly large military buildup) to achieve roughly historical results in the inital (historical) Mexican war? Mexico by then has a fairly large military - I managed a decent (49% as I recall) war score, but it netted me only Texas, New Mexico, and one province in California. Looks like I'll need to fight them again to get Arizona, Utah, Nevada, and most of California.

Also, funny, probably well known but new to me "strategy," or at least it could be a strategy but I didn't plan it (honestly I probably wouldn't do it on purpose as it seems to be a bit exploitive). I traded a couple of my Canadian claims to Texas for claims in Colorado (which in turn had been taken from Mexico). When Texas was annexed by Mexico, Mexico got the claims, which then did not revert to England when I settled on the 49th parallel. So now England can't form British Columbia without going to war against Mexico.

As long as you get a few provinces in the peace deal for the war, I think it's Huston, San Diego, and one or tow others (check the event file), the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo event will fire, ceding the appropriate land to the US. After that, the Gadsden Purchase event should also fire, and you can chose to go with that or not.

 

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As long as you get a few provinces in the peace deal for the war, I think it's Huston, San Diego, and one or tow others (check the event file), the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo event will fire, ceding the appropriate land to the US. After that, the Gadsden Purchase event should also fire, and you can chose to go with that or not.

Arghh. Didn't know that (must have missed it in the relavent events text file); I didn't get the right provinces, so no event fired. No harm in the long run, I got the rest in a second war, though at a cost in money & prestige (probably).

Thanks - next time I'll get it.

Edit - hmm, still can't find it - doesn't appear to be in USA or Mexico events files. Gadesen purchase is there but not the other. I'm playing 1.4, btw.

 

[Raph]

Arghh. Didn't know that (must have missed it in the relavent events text file); I didn't get the right provinces, so no event fired. No harm in the long run, I got the rest in a second war, though at a cost in money & prestige (probably).

Thanks - next time I'll get it.

Edit - hmm, still can't find it - doesn't appear to be in USA or Mexico events files. Gadesen purchase is there but not the other. I'm playing 1.4, btw.

If you can manage it in the peace deal, you could make them your sattelite. Making another nation your sattelite means that they'll cede all provinces you have cores on to you.

 

[Legosim]

I just looked through the event file, the provinces you must get in the peace deal are Huston, Dallas, Austin, and San Diego. Alternatively, if you have no wish to expand further into Mexico, you can satellite them, and receive all your core provinces from Mexico. This method also means you don't have the pay the ~£40000 or so to complete both treaties with Mexico.

 

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I just looked through the event file, the provinces you must get in the peace deal are Huston, Dallas, Austin, and San Diego. Alternatively, if you have no wish to expand further into Mexico, you can satellite them, and receive all your core provinces from Mexico. This method also means you don't have the pay the ~£40000 or so to complete both treaties with Mexico.

And if you should want to expand further into Mexico, satellite AND humilate them in the peace deal. You can always end your alliance and declare war vs them anytime you want for a single prestige point after that.

Hammer