two questions

[americanu197]

1 How is demesne limit calculated it seems to not have anything to do with the intrigue of the liege or spymaster
2 How succession works in muslim countries the heir dont seem to be related with their liege (bey/sultan/etc)


Im sorry if these have been asked before its really hard to find them here

 

[CirMag]

1 How is demesne limit calculated it seems to not have anything to do with the intrigue of the liege or spymaster
2 How succession works in muslim countries the heir dont seem to be related with their liege (bey/sultan/etc)


Im sorry if these have been asked before its really hard to find them here

For the first question.

Got it!

Floor( (kingRank + ((rulerStewardship + Floor(wifeStewardship / 2)) / 4) ) * successionModifier) + legalismBonus

I tested this way too much, but at least it passed every test! :sleep:

 

[Zarine]

1) If you put the mouse over the desmesne limit in game you'll have all information :

There is a base of 1 multiply depending on the rank. A bonus of 1/4 of stewardship, a bonus with gavelkind of 30% and the legalism tech as far as I know.

 

[americanu197]

I see so its stewardship this time...what about the second question

 

[unmerged(154211)]

So is the ingame description wrong that the spymaster counts into the desmesne limit?
(The description when i hover my mouse over the intrigue symbol of the spymaster)

 

[CirMag]

So is the ingame description wrong that the spymaster counts into the desmesne limit?
(The description when i hover my mouse over the intrigue symbol of the spymaster)

Sure you are not hovering over the stewardship?

 

[unmerged(154211)]

yes, i am sure. Just checked it again (in the demo).

"The intrigue level influences the maximal size of your domesne" (i am playing the german version, so its my translation)

Edit: Ok, its a translation failure in the german version. I switched to english and there is no sentence like that.
So its exclusive for the german version.

 

[americanu197]

I noticed that too in the tool tip but i just thought the rest of the formula is the way CirMag said

 

[Obentraut]

I see so its stewardship this time...what about the second question

here you go:

succession_laws = {

succ_gavelkind = {
oldest_child_opinion = -10
child_opinion = 30
dynasty_opinion = 10
vassal_opinion = 5

potential = {
OR = {
is_landless_type_title = no
title = e_golden_horde
title = e_il-khanate
title = e_timurids
}
OR = {
AND = {
tier = baron
is_feudal = yes
}
holder_scope = { is_feudal = yes }
}
is_primary_type_title = no
NOT = { tier = baron }
}
effect = {
succession = gavelkind
}
revoke_allowed = {
always = no
}
}

succ_seniority = {
vassal_opinion = -10
oldest_child_opinion = -30
child_opinion = -20
dynasty_opinion = 10

potential = {
OR = {
is_landless_type_title = no
title = e_golden_horde
title = e_il-khanate
title = e_timurids
}
OR = {
AND = {
tier = baron
is_feudal = yes
}
holder_scope = { is_feudal = yes }
}
is_primary_type_title = no
NOT = { tier = baron }
}

allow = {
OR = {
has_crown_law_title = no
crownlaw_title = {
OR = {
has_law = centralization_2
has_law = centralization_3
has_law = centralization_4
}
}
}
}

effect = {
succession = seniority
}
revoke_allowed = {
always = no
}
}

succ_primogeniture = {
oldest_child_opinion = 20
child_opinion = -20
dynasty_opinion = -5
potential = {
OR = {
is_landless_type_title = no
title = e_golden_horde
title = e_il-khanate
title = e_timurids
}
is_primary_type_title = no
OR = {
AND = {
tier = baron
is_feudal = yes
}
holder_scope = { is_feudal = yes }
}
}
allow = {
OR = {
has_crown_law_title = no
crownlaw_title = {
OR = {
has_law = centralization_3
has_law = centralization_4
}
}
}
}

effect = {
succession = primogeniture
}
revoke_allowed = {
always = no
}
}

succ_feudal_elective = {
oldest_child_opinion = -30
child_opinion = -10
dynasty_opinion = -5
vassal_opinion = 20
potential = {
OR = {
is_landless_type_title = no
title = e_golden_horde
title = e_il-khanate
title = e_timurids
}
is_primary_type_title = no
NOT = { tier = baron }
}
allow = {
OR = {
AND = {
tier = baron
is_feudal = yes
}
holder_scope = { is_feudal = yes }
}
}
effect = {
succession = feudal_elective
}
revoke_allowed = {
always = no
}
}

succ_turkish_succession = {
oldest_child_opinion = -10
child_opinion = 30
dynasty_opinion = 10
potential = {
OR = {
is_landless_type_title = no
title = e_golden_horde
title = e_il-khanate
title = e_timurids
}
holder_scope = {
is_feudal = yes
religion_group = muslim
}
is_primary_type_title = no
NOT = { tier = baron }
}
effect = {
succession = turkish_succession
}
revoke_allowed = {
always = no
}
}
succ_open_elective = {
potential = {
OR = {
is_primary_type_title = yes
AND = {
is_landless_type_title = yes
NOT = { title = e_golden_horde }
NOT = { title = e_il-khanate }
NOT = { title = e_timurids }
}
AND = {
tier = baron
is_feudal = no
}
holder_scope = { is_feudal = no }
}
OR = {
is_landless_type_title = yes
holder_scope = { is_theocracy = no }
holder_scope = {
NOT = { religion = catholic }
}
}
}
effect = {
succession = open_elective
}
revoke_allowed = {
always = no
}
}
succ_catholic_bishopric = {
potential = {
is_landless_type_title = no

OR = {
AND = {
tier = baron
is_theocracy = yes
}
holder_scope = { is_theocracy = yes }
}

holder_scope = { religion = catholic }
is_primary_type_title = no
}
effect = {
succession = catholic_bishopric
}
revoke_allowed = {
always = no
}
}
}

gender_laws = {
cognatic_succession = {
potential = {
OR = {
is_landless_type_title = no
title = e_golden_horde
title = e_il-khanate
title = e_timurids
}

OR = {
AND = {
tier = baron
is_feudal = yes
}
holder_scope = { is_feudal = yes }
}

is_primary_type_title = no
NOT = { holder_scope = { religion_group = muslim } }
}
effect = {
gender_succ = cognatic
}
revoke_allowed = {
always = no
}
}
agnatic_succession = {
female_dynasty_opinion = -10

potential = {
always = yes
}
effect = {
gender_succ = agnatic
}
revoke_allowed = {
always = no
}
}
true_cognatic_succession = {
male_dynasty_opinion = -10

potential = {
OR = {
is_landless_type_title = no
title = e_golden_horde
title = e_il-khanate
title = e_timurids
}

OR = {
AND = {
tier = baron
is_feudal = yes
}
holder_scope = { is_feudal = yes }
}

is_primary_type_title = no
NOT = { holder_scope = { religion_group = muslim } }
}
allow = {
holder_scope = { culture = basque }
}
effect = {
gender_succ = true_cognatic
}
revoke_allowed = {
always = no
}
}
}

 

[CirMag]

yes, i am sure. Just checked it again (in the demo).

"The intrigue level influences the maximal size of your domesne" (i am playing the german version, so its my translation)

Edit: Ok, its a translation failure in the german version. I switched to english and there is no sentence like that.
So its exclusive for the german version.

Ah, yeah I heard the German translation has a lot of issues. That some of them are on tooltips and not just flavor text could prove troublesome.

 

[americanu197]

So its elective if i understand right