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This could also be a good way to simulate specialized divisions whose equipment is bought from other nations. So Argentina might have a brigade sized armored division made up of outdated tanks.
Something like nationalist China's 200th division.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/200th_Division_(National_Revolutionary_Army)
If I had to be bet, however, it'll probably be partisan units.
Something like nationalist China's 200th division.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/200th_Division_(National_Revolutionary_Army)
If I had to be bet, however, it'll probably be partisan units.
"Never be built" strongly implies that they're given to you, not built by you, so as has been said - Partisans - and also as someone said, old German battleships, out of date tech that you begin with but don't create, etc. If the game ran earlier, HMS Tiger would be a good example. It might also include colonial police formations, i.e. weaker garrisons, or something. But probs partisans.
@TheLand, &c.
re the Deutschland-class, surely a player could build them in-game?
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What about just upgrading the guns disproportionately to the hull integrity, &c.?
re the Deutschland-class, surely a player could build them in-game?
o What about just upgrading the guns disproportionately to the hull integrity, &c.?
@TheLand, &c.
re the Deutschland-class, surely a player could build them in-game?
What about just upgrading the guns disproportionately to the hull integrity, &c.?
Thats what I said a while ago, but people either missed or ignored my post. I figured that because as long as components are defined, they can be used on any ship to create the OOB of a scenario within the confines of the "player-design" system, even if the player can't actually build XYZ class anymore because its 'too' obsolete. Which is why I think it has more to do with the engine understanding units that 'defy' the rules of player build (like less than min str. or frontage, or way over strength divs, etc)
@TheLand, &c.
re the Deutschland-class, surely a player could build them in-game?
What about just upgrading the guns disproportionately to the hull integrity, &c.?
As i said in post 13:
so yes, I agree.
I hope this means that a framework is in place to define new units, and associated graphics and sprites, outside of the vanilla set. i.e. to break through the 10 model ceiling per unit and the pre-set unit types - so 100 different units of infantry, with 10 models per unit to allow detailed country infantry definitions.
Would be interesting to understand if the AI could read a custom designed unit specification and then use it sensibly - such as a siege artillery unit (with low movement and high artillery values) being understood to be best used to break fortifications.
Would be interesting to understand if the AI could read a custom designed unit specification and then use it sensibly - such as a siege artillery unit (with low movement and high artillery values) being understood to be best used to break fortifications.
so yes, I agree.
Good, because I will be terribly upset if I can't build Deutschlands and Admiral Hippers as Germany.
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In an earlier dev diary Johan said there aren't any model limits so this is unlikely to do with what you have suggested
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ehh.. we use it because you can't build HQ brigades on its own, but through the unit-hierarchy interface.
modders can go berserk with what they want it for.
modders can go berserk with what they want it for.
I thinking what they are talking about is the "brigades". After all this is what you "build", and the divisions are "assembled" from the built brigades. Assuming this is all true, to me this means a very large pool of "blanks" that can be modeled as new unit types, in eithe the brigade level, or for those who wish to mod it to the battalion level, for this also.
Wow, this thread is devolving into a SPAMfest. I'm proud to have done my part.
Yea really, look at your signature, do you know how many times I have to push down on my PSP to get past it?
:rofl:
I don't care what Johan says. When the game gets too easy, every hostile province spawns a division comprised of nothing but Maus super heavy tanks and a wing of advanced jet fighters.
I was also thinking along the lines of crack units - although they were rarely deployed in brigade formations (with one exception below).
eg US Army Rangers
Brit. SAS
German crack units (Skorzeny etc)
Soviet Guards Units - this being the odd exception, with Guards formations going from platoons/units all the way up to Army-level formations.
eg US Army Rangers
Brit. SAS
German crack units (Skorzeny etc)
Soviet Guards Units - this being the odd exception, with Guards formations going from platoons/units all the way up to Army-level formations.
This begs the question: will the player be able to build HQs at all, or just no single HQ Brigades?
May be an armoured car brigade but with better reconnaissance caracteristics
If assault enginner brigade and bridge building brigade can be created, it will be a great step
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