Twitter: Unit Types...

[Goatis68]

And I all most forgot to mention this one The so called "Milk Cows" which resupplied the wolf packs while at sea thus greatly increasing there effectiveness. Now I'm even more excited, being able to raise org and more importantly repair at sea!

 

[Markusw7]

And I all most forgot to mention this one The so called "Milk Cows" which resupplied the wolf packs while at sea thus greatly increasing there effectiveness. Now I'm even more excited, being able to raise org and more importantly repair at sea!

i doubt you'd be able to get something like that, if milk cows were in the game they SHOULD be something you could build they don't fit the image of something you can't build through normal means.

 

[unmerged(54763)]

My 1st thought upon seeing this were the siege mortars like "Karl" or the giant railway guns

Ok.
We now have a little company of units with application for "exotic" units in game:

1.Spetial historical land units-,special forces, elites....

2.Exotic,mainly to old ships like Schleswig Holestein.

3.Exotic -superhaevy peaces of artillery.

What else?

 

[Battlecry]

Far too slow for a cruiser, high-calibre heavy guns like a battleship (but few of them), cruiser-type armour.

Doesn't that make them, for all intents and purposes, battlecruisers? The WWI types of these had guns midway between battleships & cruisers, cruiser levels of armour but somewhat less speed.

Couldn't, perhaps, Pocket Battleships be just a variation of the BC class ingame, like CLAAs are for CLs or Super Battleships are for BBs?


Anyway, I'm hoping that twitter comment meant, at least in part, that units with brigade numbers above or below the vanilla limit (i.e. not buildable with the standard interface) will be possible. This is the golden question for some of us modders. I can continue to hope, at least.

 

[Delta107]

I just hope that it would be possible to have new unit types that can be added and used in the tech interface. We'll see.

 

[TheLand]

Doesn't that make them, for all intents and purposes, battlecruisers? The WWI types of these had guns midway between battleships & cruisers, cruiser levels of armour but somewhat less speed.

No. They were totally different from battlecruisers. A battlecruiser is in concept a large fast ship which makes economies of either armour or firepower for the maximum speed.

A pocket Battleship was in concept a slow medium sized ship with everything subordinated to carrying the largest possible guns on a cruiser displacement.

 

[Battlecry]

No. They were totally different from battlecruisers. A battlecruiser is in concept a large fast ship which makes economies of either armour or firepower for the maximum speed.

A pocket Battleship was in concept a slow medium sized ship with everything subordinated to carrying the largest possible guns on a cruiser displacement.

Ah yes, to circumvent Versailles...lapse of memory on my part.

 

[unmerged(54763)]

Some little things about Pocket battleships.

It should be added that pocket battleships did have accent on big guns,however they were fairy armoured for their displacement.
Their speed was just slightly below speed of german Hipper class haevy cruisers,around 29 knots.
Germans equiped them allso for the first time with for that time advanced thing: Seetakt radar which helped in searching for ships on the Atlantic.
It should be noted allso that KMS Graff von Spee was able to escape british cruisers matching their speed, and enter neutral harbour of Montevideo,Argentina.
Captain Langsdorf destroyed Graff von Spee in Montevideo harbour ,amongst other reasons,to prevent Seetakt radar tech came in british hands.

So ,it could be sad that Pocket battleships were realy distinctive class of ships, class that was undervalued and practicaly deleted in HOI II.

 

[Goatis68]

Perhaps Johan or King would be kind enough to give us some insight as to what is or is not possible with this feature?

 

[torenico]

Maauss

Bear Cavarly for Russians, upgraded to Polar Bear Cavarly.

 

[TheLand]

Maauss

Bear Cavarly for Russians, upgraded to Polar Bear Cavarly.

Great idea

 

[SeedSnatcher]

SS she-wolves.

On pocket battleships, seeing as how we design things ourselves now, I think we should be able to design a ship that works like a pocket battleship, even if the game doesn't say 'pocket battleship.

 

[jmschaub]

Maybe event driven units?

 

[Markusw7]

Maybe event driven units?

i'd expect this to be used to create units that can't be built through normal means using events, what i can't see is how it can used in vanilla. I can see how it can be used for mods (creating soviet guards units and SS etc) but i don't see its use in vanilla.

 

[unmerged(54763)]

SS she-wolves.

On pocket battleships, seeing as how we design things ourselves now, I think we should be able to design a ship that works like a pocket battleship, even if the game doesn't say 'pocket battleship.

Yes we could.
Its just question will for instance I be able to mount 280 mm guns on haevy cruiser chasey?But if I will be able,than all players will do that authomathicaly without difference.
Ok game will than give us slower ships than cruiser,but, german pockets were fast as any haevy cruiser before 1941(28.5 knots)?
And they had Seetakt radar ?

So I sopose game should have at the start properly modelled german pocket battleship design as allready present in the navy(2 ships) one in production,and as ready design if someone wants to build more.
So design should be called-pocket battleships (Panzerschiff),anavoidable.

 

[unmerged(52476)]

I'd rather bet on Kikaider's explanation that the engine supports division builds that in some way hurt the rules (e.g., not correct brigade amount, wrong brigade combination).

 

[Tigerland]

Obviously the intent is to make special alien units that invade earth upon order from high stellar comand after someone done a WC. UFO guys

 

[Markusw7]

Obviously the intent is to make special alien units that invade earth upon order from high stellar comand after someone done a WC. UFO guys

could very well be the explanation for its use in vanilla:rofl:

 

[dublish]

Wow, this thread is devolving into a SPAMfest. I'm proud to have done my part.

 

[unmerged(54763)]

Obviously the intent is to make special alien units that invade earth upon order from high stellar comand after someone done a WC. UFO guys

...another one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj-xkobaRuE