The division has 'no order', but still 'we will not stand a chance'... 
You need 12 infantry divisions to be able to do nothing?
You need 12 infantry divisions to be able to do nothing?
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Wait? Did that screenshot just say beta and not alpha!?!?!?!??!?
omigosh... I don't even see beta anywhere! Its a post-release screenshot...FROM THE FUTURE!
I think God's playing with the console again! (US needs event 1005 quick I think)
...That or I'm blind
omigosh... I don't even see beta anywhere! Its a post-release screenshot...FROM THE FUTURE!
I think God's playing with the console again! (US needs event 1005 quick I think)
...That or I'm blind
The link
http://www.gamersgate.com/eu3/hoi3/beta_mar18_2.jpg
Wait? Did that screenshot just say beta and not alpha!?!?!?!??!?
Does that mean we have hit feature lock?
Btw, I hadn't noticed the commander's name on the side of the counter. Nice addition.
Well, naming brigades - a straightforward feature that will give so much joy to so many by so few...
And I have to say it look like my suspicions were confirmed about the setup of vanilla divisions. The Panzer division has two Pz bdes and a mot bde, - no arty bde. Which means that 3 bde divisions abstract the divisional arty and if you want to include a fourth arty bde that would be in addition to the DAG. I like it. It means that two and three bde divs will be normal fare and four bde divisions a little rarer.
And I have to say it look like my suspicions were confirmed about the setup of vanilla divisions. The Panzer division has two Pz bdes and a mot bde, - no arty bde. Which means that 3 bde divisions abstract the divisional arty and if you want to include a fourth arty bde that would be in addition to the DAG. I like it. It means that two and three bde divs will be normal fare and four bde divisions a little rarer.
The division has 'no order', but still 'we will not stand a chance'...
You need 12 infantry divisions to be able to do nothing?
It is an early version of the game, so those may be placeholder numbers and statements.
I think the 12 refers to combat brigades and the 3 refers to artillery brigades, i.e. the numbers of each optimally required to have a guaranteed defeat of the enemy. It is also saying that 3 combat brigades are available in reserve and that we can press the button to "take them."
I suspect that the accuracy of these evaluations of one's chances of success or failure, will be greatly enhanced by intel technology and doctrine as the game progresses.
There is another thread on that specifically.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=397713
Haha so i am blind, never thought to look at the URL
But I was just looking at the pic itself since the alpha screen-shots had "ALPHA" emblazoned upon them
i figured beta would replace it at some point
Haha so i am blind, never thought to look at the URL
But I was just looking at the pic itself since the alpha screen-shots had "ALPHA" emblazoned upon them
Interestingly I just checked the urls of the pics in the dev diaries and #20 and #21 both say beta... I cand't see images in #18 and #19 though... possibly they are broken??
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edit actually looks like the links in #18 and #19 both say alpha but the links may be broken
Is that 0-2 on the counter the overall stats of the unit? Akin to the what table wargames use?
We can see the commander's name for sure.
We can see the commander's name for sure.
I would hope that the arty regiment is not abstracted into the tank and infantry regiments, as that is not proper. I think that the division has no arty because self propelled artillery has not been researched and built yet.
Look at the 1939 OOB for 3.PD...http://www.feldgrau.com/heer3p.html
You can see that the main regiments are there in the screenshot, with the exception of the Artillerie-Regiment 75...which I assume is self propelled. If we can add brigades after division construction, I would think that the SPArty would be added in 38-39, whenever it becomes availalble.
Almost every division OOB had an artillery regiment. I think this should be in the game.
Quote from King in another thread about the same screenshot:
If you would add the artillery ingame as artillery which all divisions have, then it isn't something special anymore. It won't be anything you care about as a player. Now the artillery brigade (in the game) represents larger units of artillery of which there aren't that many in the OOB.
Right, and the additional Arty Bn that can added represents reinforcement/over-strengthening of said component.
