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lol. I googled "Fall of America" in google images and got the same one plus the cover of foreign affairs.
Your description is good but in this case the US is shattered by the Soviet Union.
thats cause i didn't edit it yet, I could fix it up abit and have it by tomorow or early morning, maybe even in an hour if am lucky.
EDIT does this take place after a soviet peace event or after annexation.
 

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Been lurking around here for a while, waiting for news...

I personally really like the flag used for the Union of American People's Republics in trekaddict's Against All Odds, though I suppose you'd need permission.

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The American Revolution was instrumental in the creation of Democracy, and some have described the country as an experiment. Today hundreds of thousands Soviet tanks and Soldiers have taken to the streets in multiple areas of the county, some marching along in victory parades, others informing the average citizen of the new peace accords signed, ones that will change north America forever. Failure of the President and his cabinet to not only win the war, but to also allow occupation of the country has caused its downfall. Early this morning, the Remnants of the government, including the president signed the surrender documents onboard a soviet submarine outside the Washington D.C area now there was no turning back. After the humiliating defeat and with a look of despair and depression, the President was allowed to make the announcement that, the American experiment, had failed, and that The United States was to be partitioned into multiple nation states, and never to return. The many members of cabinet fled to many different locations, while the president was found hours later, having committed suicide after announcing his resignation, the vice president was nowhere to be found, and is thought to have fled with the others. As the Soviet military forces finished the last of helping redraw the North American continent, from Nome to Long Island, it became clear to everyone that the United States, had officially ceased to exist, and the new age of anarchy, had begun.
how is this, kinda rushed, but still I like it, but it could be edited more, im a flexible guy.
 

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Been lurking around here for a while, waiting for news...

I personally really like the flag used for the Union of American People's Republics in trekaddict's Against All Odds, though I suppose you'd need permission.
I like it too, although I think Yellow and Red is a better combination. But keep'em coming!

how is this, kinda rushed, but still I like it, but it could be edited more, im a flexible guy.
I really like this. I would never think of this signing in a submarine :D
It's really cool. You can polish it later and send me if you want. Could you also write something in case the soviets choose to keep the US united?
 

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I like it too, although I think Yellow and Red is a better combination. But keep'em coming!


I really like this. I would never think of this signing in a submarine :D
It's really cool. You can polish it later and send me if you want. Could you also write something in case the soviets choose to keep the US united?
cool, any requests or suggestions on that latter one and/or what you wanted polished up.
 

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Some thoughts on the dissolution of the US of A.
- There should be an option for Mexico to join the Soviet Union against the US. For their help, they could get some of the border states.
- Or Mexico could take advantage of the situation and invade the southern nations one by one.
- The Wisconsin Republic, Great Lakes Republic and the Appalachian Republic should be 1 nation or maybe be able to unite later on. Maybe a democratic coup (If it starts as socialist) could happen to it, and it could be the archenemy of the USSA or rivals of the Central Republic, the hope for the return of the good old USA.
- California Could have Nevada. The New Mexican Republic could fight with California for the two other regions of Deseret.
 

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Some thoughts on the dissolution of the US of A.
- There should be an option for Mexico to join the Soviet Union against the US. For their help, they could get some of the border states.
- Or Mexico could take advantage of the situation and invade the southern nations one by one.
- The Wisconsin Republic, Great Lakes Republic and the Appalachian Republic should be 1 nation or maybe be able to unite later on. Maybe a democratic coup (If it starts as socialist) could happen to it, and it could be the archenemy of the USSA or rivals of the Central Republic, the hope for the return of the good old USA.
- California Could have Nevada. The New Mexican Republic could fight with California for the two other regions of Deseret.
If I make another scenario I can implement some of your ideas or you can just play with any of them and do it yourself. I will think of some event to restore the US.
Yes what is your userman I'll add you
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So, Hans, what about Hawaai and Alaska?
I believe they go to the soviets, I think it makes sense for Hawaii to not have independence in this case, mostly due to the fact that the only real government that existed there was a monarchy, and soviet relations with those aren't as good as history told us. Alaska I think should go to a puppet Canada, A it could use the oil, and B Not many Russian live in Alaska, so justifying it seems hard, even if it was once Russian territory.
 

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If American states are supposed to become Soviet puppets, I suppose Deseret Republic should be renamed. Name 'Deseret' comes from the Book of Mormon (it supposedly means 'honeybee') and was the name used by early Mormon settlers of the Salt Lake Valley who were seeking to establish a huge, theocratic state. Not surprisingly, the U.S. government refused the offer. When Utah finally became a state, 1) its name was not derived from the Mormon faith, 2) it was not a theocracy, and 3) it was not huge.

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Map of Deseret.

(AH mod with such a state would be cool, I think.)

Perhaps Desert Republic (without additional 'e') would be a name good enough?

On the other hand, Deseret sounds cool, so you could just keep it.

EDIT: Man, that's a lot of "suppose" in the first two sentences.
 
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If American states are supposed to become Soviet puppets, I suppose Deseret Republic should be renamed. Name 'Deseret' comes from the Book of Mormon (it supposedly means 'honeybee') and was the name used by early Mormon settlers of the Salt Lake Valley who were seeking to establish a huge, theocratic state. Not surprisingly, the U.S. government refused the offer. When Utah finally became a state, 1) its name was not derived from the Mormon faith, 2) it was not a theocracy, and 3) it was not huge.

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Map of Deseret.
I second this, as we all know the soviet government didn't take to well a liking to religion.
 

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I second this, as we all know the soviet government didn't take to well a liking to religion.

How about a nation composed of aboriginal/Indian/Native American (whichever term you choose) people? I'd love to see an Sioux, Iroquois, or Navajo nation. Sadly, their populations are much smaller than I would have guessed.

Name Population
Navajo 308,013
Cherokee 285,476
Sioux 131,048
Chippewa 115,859
Choctaw 88,913
Apache 64,869
Pueblo 59,337
Iroquois 48,365
Creek 44,085
Blackfeet 23,583


Ten Largest American Indian Tribes, 2010
 

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How about a nation composed of aboriginal/Indian/Native American (whichever term you choose) people? I'd love to see an Sioux, Iroquois, or Navajo nation. Sadly, their populations are much smaller than I would have guessed.

Name Population
Navajo 308,013
Cherokee 285,476
Sioux 131,048
Chippewa 115,859
Choctaw 88,913
Apache 64,869
Pueblo 59,337
Iroquois 48,365
Creek 44,085
Blackfeet 23,583


Ten Largest American Indian Tribes, 2010
Maybe they could unite in some form of Confederation or a Union that mimics Yugoslavia.
 

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If American states are supposed to become Soviet puppets, I suppose Deseret Republic should be renamed. Name 'Deseret' comes from the Book of Mormon (it supposedly means 'honeybee') and was the name used by early Mormon settlers of the Salt Lake Valley who were seeking to establish a huge, theocratic state. Not surprisingly, the U.S. government refused the offer. When Utah finally became a state, 1) its name was not derived from the Mormon faith, 2) it was not a theocracy, and 3) it was not huge.

oiw55h.png

Map of Deseret.

(AH mod with such a state would be cool, I think.)

Perhaps Desert Republic (without additional 'e') would be a name good enough?

On the other hand, Deseret sounds cool, so you could just keep it.

EDIT: Man, that's a lot of "suppose" in the first two sentences.

I thought about all that, but I just thought it would be cool to keep them in. Maybe if I add a Republic after the name it will be more reasonable. Or we can think that the name Deseret which means Honeybee reminds of a sense of community, the soviets could just keep all the religion side out or they could just accept whatever support they could get.
PS: They don't start huge though, only have huge claims.

How about a nation composed of aboriginal/Indian/Native American (whichever term you choose) people? I'd love to see an Sioux, Iroquois, or Navajo nation. Sadly, their populations are much smaller than I would have guessed.

Name Population
Navajo 308,013
Cherokee 285,476
Sioux 131,048
Chippewa 115,859
Choctaw 88,913
Apache 64,869
Pueblo 59,337
Iroquois 48,365
Creek 44,085
Blackfeet 23,583


Ten Largest American Indian Tribes, 2010

Did you see the map at page 41? :D
 

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Still and Indian nation is completely outrageous, I mean there is literally no way in hell that such a nation formed out of such a tiny minority can possibly even begin to govern, I mean even with Soviet troops it would take outright 'g word' to begin to be able to control the population.