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The AI used to open the L Cluster and release the gray tempest pre 2350 all the time in my games.
 

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Default. But I'm pretty sure the earliest it happened was like 2285.
 

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I wonder what happens if you just comment out the event that sets the flag at the beginning of the game. Does it spawn a barren L-Cluster that you can access or does it mess up the entire clue chain? I'm thinking it's the former though I guess it might lead to unexpected behaviour if the Cluster is opened.
 

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I wonder what happens if you just comment out the event that sets the flag at the beginning of the game. Does it spawn a barren L-Cluster that you can access or does it mess up the entire clue chain? I'm thinking it's the former though I guess it might lead to unexpected behaviour if the Cluster is opened.
I don't think it's possible to remove everything and have a completely empty cluster.
Someone posted this in another thread.

OK, so it does in fact work. SO create your game and go to the "distant_stars_events_3.txt" file (for me anyway) search for "10950" and the event line comes up. Change the 11000 event (grey goo) to any of the event codes - I used L-Drake 13000 and booted a save game before the AI opened the gates and hey-presto.... L Drakes.
The events file can be found in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stellaris\events. The code lines in the event file appear as below:
country_event = {
id = distar.10950
hide_window = yes

is_triggered_only = yes

immediate = {
set_country_flag = lcluster_opener
set_global_flag = l_cluster_opened
# spawn L-Cluster
country_event = { id = distar.13000 } ......... (I changed this from 11000 to 13000)

And PS... always backup and make a copy of any files before you change them.
 

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Default. But I'm pretty sure the earliest it happened was like 2285.
are you 200% sure? that sounds way early. in my current game the AI did it around 2350 from memory
 

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Thats caused by rare and dangerous technologies isn't it?
Not sure if they only appear after midgame start year to be honest.
i'm pretty sure PDS sold them as another mid-game crisis alongside the Khan. they do threaten the whole galaxy, after all...
 
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I don't think it's possible to remove everything and have a completely empty cluster.
Someone posted this in another thread.
I don't have the game here so I can't really delve into the event files and check though from reading that the Cluster doesn't spawn until it's opened (makes sense) so removing all the flags probably wouldn't work. But making sure that only say Gray or Dessanu Consonance can spawn should be possible and would have a lot less disruptive effect on the game.
 

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I don't have the game here so I can't really delve into the event files and check though from reading that the Cluster doesn't spawn until it's opened (makes sense) so removing all the flags probably wouldn't work. But making sure that only say Gray or Dessanu Consonance can spawn should be possible and would have a lot less disruptive effect on the game.
it's supposed to have a disruptive effect on the game. the first time i opened an L-Gate guess what i got?

oh well, you know it's a good game when you can have fun watching yourself lose.
 

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Thing is Gray tempest ends up being either game ending for the player, or a bonus for the player, one or the other. sure SOMETIMES it may cause damage and then be stopped, but if you have refugees welcome and manage not to take many losses, then defeat them, free pops!
 
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I wonder what happens if you just comment out the event that sets the flag at the beginning of the game. Does it spawn a barren L-Cluster that you can access or does it mess up the entire clue chain? I'm thinking it's the former though I guess it might lead to unexpected behaviour if the Cluster is opened.
If no flag is set, then you always get the outcome with the abandoned L Cluster.
Don't comment out the entire event (distar.8000) though, just the immediate = { } block.
 

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Interesting. I was just asking because in the last discussion about this people said the AI opens the Gates way to early (before endgame) but no one ever gave a date earlier than what you said which also aligns with my experience.
Reddit has a thread currently with one at 2282 - https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/qd9kc2
It would be nice to get a screen shot of the AI opening it around 2250 like you see brought up from time to time.
 
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Admiral, 2340, A huge Devouring Swarm is about to open the gates. I'm ready this time. LOL

I have a 74K bastion at my gate. I took Eternal Vigilance to help. Now watch they won't spawn. :)