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So i started thread regarding Seljuk Sultanate restored desicion and some flavor changes regarding Turkish Anatolian minors and Rum. And first of all i must thank @Aquamancer for making certain valid arguments regarding the Seljuks and their dinasty. With the death of sultan Mesud II of Rum in 1308 the Seljuk dinasty was gone. And i must agree that it's pointless to restore a nation where there is no longer living relative of that dinasty.

Now the idea remains that Turkish Anatolian minors get shared mission tree aiming to unite Turks of Anatolia under the banner of Rum. The requirement for forming Rum will no longer be to take Constantinople, since Rum never controled it, but instead to secure certain terriotries in Anatolia like here : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/Anatolian_Seljuk_Sultanate.JPG

After the Rum is formed it's mission tree would expand and lead you eastwards to secure the realm of the former Seljuk empire like here : https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Seljuk_Empire_locator_map.svg

Any Turkish Anatolian minor that forms Rum will get Iqta government form instead Ottoman.

Another thing is with Turkish being in Levantine culture group. Now i suggest that Turks be placed in Altaic culture group, while in return Ottomans would get perhaps unique government reforms to push enabling them to promote cultures at cheap cost or to promote more cultures than usual nations. Again please feel to expres your own ideas.

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This is a mission tree for Turkish Anatolian minors and Rum done by @fredrikslicer

City of the worlds desire


"Same as the Ottoman mission of the same name"

Prequisite: Control Constantinople
Reward: The Ottomans gain "Defeated the Byzantine Empire" for Time 15 years, giving the following effects: +1 legitimacy +1 tolerance of the true faith, gain claims to, Athens, Rhodes and Cyprus

Finish off the Crusaders

"Following the fall of the Byzantine Empire during the fourth crusade a number of disperate states have cropped up
dedicated to continuing their mission. They must be destroyed"


Prequisite: Control Athens, Rhodes and Cyprus
Reward: +10% Galley Combat abillity for 20 years, "The Italian Communes" event happens (Details at the end)

Restore Ruman Soverignty

"We are the successors of the Ruman Sultanate and we will reclaim what is ours."

Prequisite: Controll Ankara, Rum, Erzurum, Karaman and Cukrova, Germiyan, None of the other Beylikes exists
Reward: Gain claims to Karadeniz, Aydin, Hudavendigar and Thrace

Finish off the Ottomans

"The Ottomans are on their last legs, time to finnish them off and secure our birthright."

Prequisite: Ottomans do not exist, Control Karadeniz, Aydin, Hudavendigar and Thrace
Reward: Permanent claims to Anatolia

Reestablish the Atabegs (Becomes unlocked with the formation of Rum)

"The old empire was governed by the Atabegs under the watchful eyes of the Vizer and the strength of the Sultan.
However following the decline of the empire and its successor states their influence has been confieded to the pages
of history. Rise to power however has created the need for a new administration and the return of the Atabegs has become
a near certainty."


Prequisite: Umera has 80% Loyalty, Umera control 10 or mor provinces, Umera has 70 Influence
Reward: Gain Permenant claims to Mashriq (Except for Palestine and Transjordan) and Submission casus belli against all
tags with capitals in the Caucasian region (Except for Dagestan and Circassia) and claims to all provinces in the Caucasian
region (Except for Dagestan and Circassia) who do not have capital in the Caucasian region.

Reclaim Syria

"Syria came under the control of Tutush I however after his death the region became divided between his sons and was soon
goobled up by other states. We must now reclaim it for the empire."


Prequisite: Control Aleppo, Syria and Syrian Desert
Reward: +100 Diplomatic power, Damascus gains "Syrian Atabeg" +10% Trade power for 20 years

Caucasian Submission

"The caucus is a patchwork of disperate kingdoms and tribes. We must bend them one by one and drive out any other contenders
to the region"


Prequisite: You or your allies Control Shirvan, Imereti, Kartil-Kakheti, Samtskhe
Reward: Gain "Caucasian Overlordship" for 20 Years -10% Vassal Liberty desire, -15% Diplomatic annexation

Invade Mesopotamia

"Baghdad, once the seat of the Arab and Persians, center of Islamic scholarship and the heart of civilization has been ravaged
by nomads from the east for far to long. We must sheer the sheep and reclaim the land of the two rivers."


Prequisite: Control Al-Jazira, Iraq Arabi, Basra and Khueztan
Reward: Mesopotamian provinces gain "Mesopotamian Atabegs" for 20 Years +10% Goods produced and +15% local movement speed

Shahanshah

"The Turks have long been a benefactor of perisan language and culture. We must now place them under our benign rule."

Prequisite: 2 Stability, 90 Legitimacy, 50 Prestige, No overextension
Reward: Claims to Persian Region

Heir to the Seljuqs

"We have once more brought the lands between the Mediterranian and the heartland of Iran."

Prequisite: Control Persia
Reward: Gain Claims to Khorasan Region, Transoxiana, Ferghana, Khuttalan, Arys and Kyzlkum

Unify the Turan People

"The old turkish tribes that ruled the old empire have been scattered for too long. Now with the reconquest old bonds
have been made strong and kinships rekindled."


Prequisite: Control all Turkmeni, Turkish and Azerbaijani provinces, Dynasty name becomes Tag name
Reward: "Turan Union" event happens (Details at the end)

Amputation

"The Mongol taint of the Timurids remains in these lands, the last of their appendages in Khorasan and Afghanistan must
be amputated. Let the Hindu kush be the blade that severs their thieving hands."


Prequisite: Control Khorasan except for Makran and Kalat, Timurids have nor provinces in Central Asia, Persia or Khorasan
Reward: +100 Military power "Khwarazm Avenged" for 20 years +1 Prestige, +1 Army tradition

Court Poetry

"The travelling Ozan are masters of song and story telling, it is great prestige to be able to have many masters of their
ranks in ones court."


Prequisite: Have employed advisor Artist rank 2
Reward: +20 Prestige, +50 Diplomatic power

Shahnameh Romance

"The story written by Ferdowsi, the lord of the word, is the foremost work of poetry in the turco-persian world. Our ruler can
to the jelousy of others claim to have memorized the full work and can resite it verbatum."


Prequisite: Ruler diplomatic skill 4 and Diplomatic Tenchology at least 6
Reward: +20 Prestige, Diplomatic reputation +1 Till rulers death

Bijan and Manijeh

"The romantic tale of the marrige between the Turan king and the Iranian princess is popular and many have drawn a paralell
to the marriage of our ruler."


Prequisite: Have a royal marriage with an iranian tag and 150 opinion with the same tag
Reward: gain +20 Legitimacy, +20 Prestige

Commission Persian Minitures

"Unique among the the Islamic regions is Iran for its continuation of character paintings. These miniatures feature delicate
portraits, caligraphy and often comes with a story. We simply must have some of these for our walls in *Capital Name*"


Prequisite: Have 2 Iranian Cultures Accepted
Reward: Gain 300 Diplomatic Power, 20 Pretsige

Support the Madrassas

"The sciences rely on the madrassas for teaching the next generation. With our wealth we should be able to create a ressurgance
in a variety of sciences and law."


Prequisite: Ulama has 60 Influence, 80 Loyalty, Employed Theologian or Inquisitor rank 2
Reward: +1 Stability, +1 Tolerance towards the true faith till the end of the game

Dervish performance

"The sufi orders of the land are very famous but non more so than the dervish. The whirling dances of these majestic mystics
have embedded themselves in peoples imagination."


Prequisite: Have 10 Mosques with 10 Development each
Reward: Gain "Mystic Attraction" +3 Missionary strength for 20 Years

Crush the Safaviyya

"Like the Nizari the cult of the Safavids is suecidelly devoted to their imam. To secure our realm we must succeed where our
progenitors failed and whipe out the shiite menace."


Prequisite: No province in Caucasia, Mashriq or Persia has Shia Religion
Reward: Gain "Zealots crushed" for 20 Years -5 Years of Seperatism

Turco-Persian renaissance

"The resurgance of the arts, faith and sciences have paid off. Today we stand as the birthplace of a renaissance that penetrates
the islamic world!"


Prequisite: Have 5 Universities
Reward: Gain 25 progress to oldest non embraced institution, "Turco-Persian Renaissance" -10% Idea cost for 20 Years

Events:

"The Italian Communes"

Description: "The Latin Communities have in spite of their faith sought to make a deal with regards to their holdings in
the former Byzantine empire. The suggest a truce with mutual economic benifits. Of course both have suggested we attack the other."
Prequisite:
Option 1: "The Venetians are snakes" Gain Claims to all Venitian provinces in Balkans, Pontic Steppe or Anatolia, Become Allied with Venice
Option 3: "The Geonoese are much too arrogant" Gain Claims to all Geonoese provinces in Balkans, Pontic Steppe or Anatolia, Become Allied with Genoa
Option 3: "No deal with Infidels" Gain Claims to all Geonoese and Venitian provinces in Balkans, Pontic Steppe or Anatolia
Option 2: "Give peace a chance" Gain +10% Domestic trade, +50 Opinion with Genoa and Venice Genoa and Venice lose claims in PC tag

"Turan Union"

Description: "The people of the Seljuq have been unified for the first time in centuries. The Shahnameh identifies us as the Turanians a mighty
and respected people in rivalry and friendship with the Iranians."
Prequisite:
Option 1: "We are all deceandents of Afrasiab" All Turkish , Turkmeni and Azerbaijani provinces become Turani, Turani becomes primary culture of Rum and Turani becomes Iranian culture group
Option 2: "A good story" Gain Azerbaijani and Turkmeni as accepted cultures

As well as description. All credits go to @fredrikslicer. He was of great help big thanks from my part.
 
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The Idea is that when reaching the Turan people Turkish and Turkmeni will be moved to Iranian group or replaced with an Iranian double while gaining culture conversion cost discount against Uzbeki culture
 
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Well done with the mission tree. I personally couldn't done better. I tried but didn't have had the right idea of how to do it. I realy like your work and you have my thanks friend.
Thank you I will make an additional update with more details to the missions
 
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City of the worlds desire

"Same as the Ottoman mission of the same name"

Prequisite: Control Constantinople
Reward: The Ottomans gain "Defeated the Byzantine Empire" for Time 15 years, giving the following effects: +1 legitimacy +1 tolerance of the true faith, gain claims to, Athens, Rhodes and Cyprus

Finish off the Crusaders

"Following the fall of the Byzantine Empire during the fourth crusade a number of disperate states have cropped up
dedicated to continuing their mission. They must be destroyed"


Prequisite: Control Athens, Rhodes and Cyprus
Reward: +10% Galley Combat abillity for 20 years, "The Italian Communes" event happens (Details at the end)

Restore Ruman Soverignty

"We are the successors of the Ruman Sultanate and we will reclaim what is ours."

Prequisite: Controll Ankara, Rum, Erzurum, Karaman and Cukrova, Germiyan, None of the other Beylikes exists
Reward: Gain claims to Karadeniz, Aydin, Hudavendigar and Thrace

Finish off the Ottomans

"The Ottomans are on their last legs, time to finnish them off and secure our birthright."

Prequisite: Ottomans do not exist, Control Karadeniz, Aydin, Hudavendigar and Thrace
Reward: Permanent claims to Anatolia

Reestablish the Atabegs (Becomes unlocked with the formation of Rum)

"The old empire was governed by the Atabegs under the watchful eyes of the Vizer and the strength of the Sultan.
However following the decline of the empire and its successor states their influence has been confieded to the pages
of history. Rise to power however has created the need for a new administration and the return of the Atabegs has become
a near certainty."


Prequisite: Umera has 80% Loyalty, Umera control 10 or mor provinces, Umera has 70 Influence
Reward: Gain Permenant claims to Mashriq (Except for Palestine and Transjordan) and Submission casus belli against all
tags with capitals in the Caucasian region (Except for Dagestan and Circassia) and claims to all provinces in the Caucasian
region (Except for Dagestan and Circassia) who do not have capital in the Caucasian region.

Reclaim Syria

"Syria came under the control of Tutush I however after his death the region became divided between his sons and was soon
goobled up by other states. We must now reclaim it for the empire."


Prequisite: Control Aleppo, Syria and Syrian Desert
Reward: +100 Diplomatic power, Damascus gains "Syrian Atabeg" +10% Trade power for 20 years

Caucasian Submission

"The caucus is a patchwork of disperate kingdoms and tribes. We must bend them one by one and drive out any other contenders
to the region"


Prequisite: You or your allies Control Shirvan, Imereti, Kartil-Kakheti, Samtskhe
Reward: Gain "Caucasian Overlordship" for 20 Years -10% Vassal Liberty desire, -15% Diplomatic annexation

Invade Mesopotamia

"Baghdad, once the seat of the Arab and Persians, center of Islamic scholarship and the heart of civilization has been ravaged
by nomads from the east for far to long. We must sheer the sheep and reclaim the land of the two rivers."


Prequisite: Control Al-Jazira, Iraq Arabi, Basra and Khueztan
Reward: Mesopotamian provinces gain "Mesopotamian Atabegs" for 20 Years +10% Goods produced and +15% local movement speed

Shahanshah

"The Turks have long been a benefactor of perisan language and culture. We must now place them under our benign rule."

Prequisite: 2 Stability, 90 Legitimacy, 50 Prestige, No overextension
Reward: Claims to Persian Region

Heir to the Seljuqs

"We have once more brought the lands between the Mediterranian and the heartland of Iran."

Prequisite: Control Persia
Reward: Gain Claims to Khorasan Region, Transoxiana, Ferghana, Khuttalan, Arys and Kyzlkum

Unify the Turan People

"The old turkish tribes that ruled the old empire have been scattered for too long. Now with the reconquest old bonds
have been made strong and kinships rekindled."


Prequisite: Control all Turkmeni, Turkish and Azerbaijani provinces, Dynasty name becomes Tag name
Reward: "Turan Union" event happens (Details at the end)

Amputation

"The Mongol taint of the Timurids remains in these lands, the last of their appendages in Khorasan and Afghanistan must
be amputated. Let the Hindu kush be the blade that severs their thieving hands."


Prequisite: Control Khorasan except for Makran and Kalat, Timurids have nor provinces in Central Asia, Persia or Khorasan
Reward: +100 Military power "Khwarazm Avenged" for 20 years +1 Prestige, +1 Army tradition

Court Poetry

"The travelling Ozan are masters of song and story telling, it is great prestige to be able to have many masters of their
ranks in ones court."


Prequisite: Have employed advisor Artist rank 2
Reward: +20 Prestige, +50 Diplomatic power

Shahnameh Romance

"The story written by Ferdowsi, the lord of the word, is the foremost work of poetry in the turco-persian world. Our ruler can
to the jelousy of others claim to have memorized the full work and can resite it verbatum."


Prequisite: Ruler diplomatic skill 4 and Diplomatic Tenchology at least 6
Reward: +20 Prestige, Diplomatic reputation +1 Till rulers death

Bijan and Manijeh

"The romantic tale of the marrige between the Turan king and the Iranian princess is popular and many have drawn a paralell
to the marriage of our ruler."


Prequisite: Have a royal marriage with an iranian tag and 150 opinion with the same tag
Reward: gain +20 Legitimacy, +20 Prestige

Commission Persian Minitures

"Unique among the the Islamic regions is Iran for its continuation of character paintings. These miniatures feature delicate
portraits, caligraphy and often comes with a story. We simply must have some of these for our walls in *Capital Name*"


Prequisite: Have 2 Iranian Cultures Accepted
Reward: Gain 300 Diplomatic Power, 20 Pretsige

Support the Madrassas

"The sciences rely on the madrassas for teaching the next generation. With our wealth we should be able to create a ressurgance
in a variety of sciences and law."


Prequisite: Ulama has 60 Influence, 80 Loyalty, Employed Theologian or Inquisitor rank 2
Reward: +1 Stability, +1 Tolerance towards the true faith till the end of the game

Dervish performance

"The sufi orders of the land are very famous but non more so than the dervish. The whirling dances of these majestic mystics
have embedded themselves in peoples imagination."


Prequisite: Have 10 Mosques with 10 Development each
Reward: Gain "Mystic Attraction" +3 Missionary strength for 20 Years

Crush the Safaviyya

"Like the Nizari the cult of the Safavids is suecidelly devoted to their imam. To secure our realm we must succeed where our
progenitors failed and whipe out the shiite menace."


Prequisite: No province in Caucasia, Mashriq or Persia has Shia Religion
Reward: Gain "Zealots crushed" for 20 Years -5 Years of Seperatism

Turco-Persian renaissance

"The resurgance of the arts, faith and sciences have paid off. Today we stand as the birthplace of a renaissance that penetrates
the islamic world!"


Prequisite: Have 5 Universities
Reward: Gain 25 progress to oldest non embraced institution, "Turco-Persian Renaissance" -10% Idea cost for 20 Years

Events:

"The Italian Communes"

Description: "The Latin Communities have in spite of their faith sought to make a deal with regards to their holdings in
the former Byzantine empire. The suggest a truce with mutual economic benifits. Of course both have suggested we attack the other."
Prequisite:
Option 1: "The Venetians are snakes" Gain Claims to all Venitian provinces in Balkans, Pontic Steppe or Anatolia, Become Allied with Venice
Option 3: "The Geonoese are much too arrogant" Gain Claims to all Geonoese provinces in Balkans, Pontic Steppe or Anatolia, Become Allied with Genoa
Option 3: "No deal with Infidels" Gain Claims to all Geonoese and Venitian provinces in Balkans, Pontic Steppe or Anatolia
Option 2: "Give peace a chance" Gain +10% Domestic trade, +50 Opinion with Genoa and Venice Genoa and Venice lose claims in PC tag

"Turan Union"

Description: "The people of the Seljuq have been unified for the first time in centuries. The Shahnameh identifies us as the Turanians a mighty
and respected people in rivalry and friendship with the Iranians."
Prequisite:
Option 1: "We are all deceandents of Afrasiab" All Turkish , Turkmeni and Azerbaijani provinces become Turani, Turani becomes primary culture of Rum
Option 2: "A good story" Gain Azerbaijani and Turkmeni as accepted cultures
 
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"Same as the Ottoman mission of the same name"

Prequisite: Control Constantinople
Reward: The Ottomans gain "Defeated the Byzantine Empire" for Time 15 years, giving the following effects: +1 legitimacy +1 tolerance of the true faith, gain claims to, Athens, Rhodes and Cyprus

Finish off the Crusaders

"Following the fall of the Byzantine Empire during the fourth crusade a number of disperate states have cropped up
dedicated to continuing their mission. They must be destroyed"


Prequisite: Control Athens, Rhodes and Cyprus
Reward: +10% Galley Combat abillity for 20 years, "The Italian Communes" event happens (Details at the end)

Restore Ruman Soverignty

"We are the successors of the Ruman Sultanate and we will reclaim what is ours."

Prequisite: Controll Ankara, Rum, Erzurum, Karaman and Cukrova, Germiyan, None of the other Beylikes exists
Reward: Gain claims to Karadeniz, Aydin, Hudavendigar and Thrace

Finish off the Ottomans

"The Ottomans are on their last legs, time to finnish them off and secure our birthright."

Prequisite: Ottomans do not exist, Control Karadeniz, Aydin, Hudavendigar and Thrace
Reward: Permanent claims to Anatolia

Reestablish the Atabegs (Becomes unlocked with the formation of Rum)

"The old empire was governed by the Atabegs under the watchful eyes of the Vizer and the strength of the Sultan.
However following the decline of the empire and its successor states their influence has been confieded to the pages
of history. Rise to power however has created the need for a new administration and the return of the Atabegs has become
a near certainty."


Prequisite: Umera has 80% Loyalty, Umera control 10 or mor provinces, Umera has 70 Influence
Reward: Gain Permenant claims to Mashriq (Except for Palestine and Transjordan) and Submission casus belli against all
tags with capitals in the Caucasian region (Except for Dagestan and Circassia) and claims to all provinces in the Caucasian
region (Except for Dagestan and Circassia) who do not have capital in the Caucasian region.

Reclaim Syria

"Syria came under the control of Tutush I however after his death the region became divided between his sons and was soon
goobled up by other states. We must now reclaim it for the empire."


Prequisite: Control Aleppo, Syria and Syrian Desert
Reward: +100 Diplomatic power, Damascus gains "Syrian Atabeg" +10% Trade power for 20 years

Caucasian Submission

"The caucus is a patchwork of disperate kingdoms and tribes. We must bend them one by one and drive out any other contenders
to the region"


Prequisite: You or your allies Control Shirvan, Imereti, Kartil-Kakheti, Samtskhe
Reward: Gain "Caucasian Overlordship" for 20 Years -10% Vassal Liberty desire, -15% Diplomatic annexation

Invade Mesopotamia

"Baghdad, once the seat of the Arab and Persians, center of Islamic scholarship and the heart of civilization has been ravaged
by nomads from the east for far to long. We must sheer the sheep and reclaim the land of the two rivers."


Prequisite: Control Al-Jazira, Iraq Arabi, Basra and Khueztan
Reward: Mesopotamian provinces gain "Mesopotamian Atabegs" for 20 Years +10% Goods produced and +15% local movement speed

Shahanshah

"The Turks have long been a benefactor of perisan language and culture. We must now place them under our benign rule."

Prequisite: 2 Stability, 90 Legitimacy, 50 Prestige, No overextension
Reward: Claims to Persian Region

Heir to the Seljuqs

"We have once more brought the lands between the Mediterranian and the heartland of Iran."

Prequisite: Control Persia
Reward: Gain Claims to Khorasan Region, Transoxiana, Ferghana, Khuttalan, Arys and Kyzlkum

Unify the Turan People

"The old turkish tribes that ruled the old empire have been scattered for too long. Now with the reconquest old bonds
have been made strong and kinships rekindled."


Prequisite: Control all Turkmeni, Turkish and Azerbaijani provinces, Dynasty name becomes Tag name
Reward: "Turan Union" event happens (Details at the end)

Amputation

"The Mongol taint of the Timurids remains in these lands, the last of their appendages in Khorasan and Afghanistan must
be amputated. Let the Hindu kush be the blade that severs their thieving hands."


Prequisite: Control Khorasan except for Makran and Kalat, Timurids have nor provinces in Central Asia, Persia or Khorasan
Reward: +100 Military power "Khwarazm Avenged" for 20 years +1 Prestige, +1 Army tradition

Court Poetry

"The travelling Ozan are masters of song and story telling, it is great prestige to be able to have many masters of their
ranks in ones court."


Prequisite: Have employed advisor Artist rank 2
Reward: +20 Prestige, +50 Diplomatic power

Shahnameh Romance

"The story written by Ferdowsi, the lord of the word, is the foremost work of poetry in the turco-persian world. Our ruler can
to the jelousy of others claim to have memorized the full work and can resite it verbatum."


Prequisite: Ruler diplomatic skill 4 and Diplomatic Tenchology at least 6
Reward: +20 Prestige, Diplomatic reputation +1 Till rulers death

Bijan and Manijeh

"The romantic tale of the marrige between the Turan king and the Iranian princess is popular and many have drawn a paralell
to the marriage of our ruler."


Prequisite: Have a royal marriage with an iranian tag and 150 opinion with the same tag
Reward: gain +20 Legitimacy, +20 Prestige

Commission Persian Minitures

"Unique among the the Islamic regions is Iran for its continuation of character paintings. These miniatures feature delicate
portraits, caligraphy and often comes with a story. We simply must have some of these for our walls in *Capital Name*"


Prequisite: Have 2 Iranian Cultures Accepted
Reward: Gain 300 Diplomatic Power, 20 Pretsige

Support the Madrassas

"The sciences rely on the madrassas for teaching the next generation. With our wealth we should be able to create a ressurgance
in a variety of sciences and law."


Prequisite: Ulama has 60 Influence, 80 Loyalty, Employed Theologian or Inquisitor rank 2
Reward: +1 Stability, +1 Tolerance towards the true faith till the end of the game

Dervish performance

"The sufi orders of the land are very famous but non more so than the dervish. The whirling dances of these majestic mystics
have embedded themselves in peoples imagination."


Prequisite: Have 10 Mosques with 10 Development each
Reward: Gain "Mystic Attraction" +3 Missionary strength for 20 Years

Crush the Safaviyya

"Like the Nizari the cult of the Safavids is suecidelly devoted to their imam. To secure our realm we must succeed where our
progenitors failed and whipe out the shiite menace."


Prequisite: No province in Caucasia, Mashriq or Persia has Shia Religion
Reward: Gain "Zealots crushed" for 20 Years -5 Years of Seperatism

Turco-Persian renaissance

"The resurgance of the arts, faith and sciences have paid off. Today we stand as the birthplace of a renaissance that penetrates
the islamic world!"


Prequisite: Have 5 Universities
Reward: Gain 25 progress to oldest non embraced institution, "Turco-Persian Renaissance" -10% Idea cost for 20 Years

Events:

"The Italian Communes"

Description: "The Latin Communities have in spite of their faith sought to make a deal with regards to their holdings in
the former Byzantine empire. The suggest a truce with mutual economic benifits. Of course both have suggested we attack the other."
Prequisite:
Option 1: "The Venetians are snakes" Gain Claims to all Venitian provinces in Balkans, Pontic Steppe or Anatolia, Become Allied with Venice
Option 3: "The Geonoese are much too arrogant" Gain Claims to all Geonoese provinces in Balkans, Pontic Steppe or Anatolia, Become Allied with Genoa
Option 3: "No deal with Infidels" Gain Claims to all Geonoese and Venitian provinces in Balkans, Pontic Steppe or Anatolia
Option 2: "Give peace a chance" Gain +10% Domestic trade, +50 Opinion with Genoa and Venice Genoa and Venice lose claims in PC tag

"Turan Union"

Description: "The people of the Seljuq have been unified for the first time in centuries. The Shahnameh identifies us as the Turanians a mighty
and respected people in rivalry and friendship with the Iranians."
Prequisite:
Option 1: "We are all deceandents of Afrasiab" All Turkish , Turkmeni and Azerbaijani provinces become Turani, Turani becomes primary culture of Rum
Option 2: "A good story" Gain Azerbaijani and Turkmeni as accepted cultures
Wow nice job man. This is great. I can see you put a lot of effort here. Hopefully devs will notice your amazing work.
 
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Wow nice job man. This is great. I can see you put a lot of effort here. Hopefully devs will notice your amazing work.
It would be productive if you copy the image of the tree and description in my post and add it to the first post that way they would see it more easily
 

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All ready done. I also credited you and once again thank you. Since you're the one who did most of the job, at least i can do is name the man responsible for all of that. In good way ofcourse.
I forgot One thing in the Turan Union I didn't specify that "Turani" should be in the Iranian group (Because Turco-Iranian) so if you could add "Turani culture should be part of the Iranian culture group" PDX can be a bit dense about these things
 

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This mission tree is rather well designed: I especially like the missions starting from Court Poetry and the balance of missions focusing on conquest and other matters. Here are some feedback and notes I have about it.

  • The reason why Rûm gets the Ottoman government is mainly for gameplay reasons. Essentially, as a reward for beating the Ottomans as a rather weak nation, you get the very powerful government and mechanics otherwise exclusive to the Ottomans. It's also worth pointing out that Iqta government is more suited for vassal-oriented gameplay, while the Ottomans' government is more suited for conquering vast swathes of land, which is the gameplay encouraged by Rûmi missions.
Perhaps a good solution would be for Rûm to get its own unique type of government, which for all intentions is Ottoman government with some names changed: instead of Janissaries, Rûm is able to recruit ghulams, and instead of pashas, Rûm is able to appoint atabegs. The event that allows you to choose your heir could also have a different text that doesn't refer to Ottoman titles.​
  • The claims from "City of the World's Desire" mission and the description of the "Finish off the Crusaders" mission assumes that the Crusader states (Athens, Cyprus and The Knights) exist at the time of the mission, while it could easily be that the tags have ceased to exist. In addition, the mission-tree forgets the existence of Epirus and Naxos, two other Crusader states which could still be around when the mission is completed. As such, it might be better to have the mission be a bit more dynamic: giving you claims on all of the provinces owned by the Crusader states in Anatolia and Balkans regions, with some fallback claims if none of the Crusader States exist.
  • "Amputation" could work a bit like the Novgorodian mission "Dethrone the Rurikovichs", which requires to ensure no nation in the East Slavic culture group with a Rurikovich ruler exist, unless they're a subject of Novgorod: maybe you'd have to ensure that "Timurids" tag no longer exists and no nation in Persia, Khorasan and Central Asia regions exist that are ruled by a Timurid (unless they're your vassal)?
  • I suppose when you wrote "The Italian Communes" event, you meant that you'd gain an alliance with the nation that you chose not to attack, since currently, you're suggesting getting an alliance with the nation you gain claims to. You might want to change that.
  • While I like the idea of allowing Rûm to shift the Turkish culture to Turani and thus get a cultural union over Persian lands, I am not so sure about assimilating Turkmeni and Azerbaijani cultures to it as well. Given that Azerbaijani is already a part of Persian culture group, it feels rather redundant to shift them to Turani culture. I am not sure what to say about the Turkmeni, though. Regardless, the fact that these Turani lands would be disjointed would make the unification feel off: how would three Turkic ethnic groups that don't even share a land-border gain a shared sense of unity? In addition, I am also not so certain about calling the Turco-Persian culture "Turani": perhaps "Turkoman" would be a better choice?

  • Finally, I feel that the mission tree should have a few missions different for all of the beyliks, to make them feel a bit more distinct from one another. Say, Candar's and Karaman's unique missions could involve them reclaiming their old cores, while Ramazan's and Dulkandir's old missions might have something to do with managing the opinions and interests of Mamluks and Ottomans.
Dulkandir might have a mission related to their royal marriages and alliancces with the Ottomans and focusing on re-extending their influence from Kırşehir to Mosul, Ramazan might have a mission focusing on the Bektashi tradition of Yüreğir Turks and the cultural exchange with the large Armenian community in Cilicia, Candar might have a mission focusing on internal development as well as their navy and attacks on the Genoese outposts, and Karaman could have a mission focusing on their old Mamluk alliance, and either securing control of strategic commercial areas that their economy relied on or diversifying their economic activities. That sort of stuff.​
 
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This mission tree is rather well designed: I especially like the missions starting from Court Poetry and the balance of missions focusing on conquest and other matters. Here are some feedback and notes I have about it.

  • The claims from "City of the World's Desire" mission and the description of the "Finish off the Crusaders" mission assumes that the Crusader states (Athens, Cyprus and The Knights) exist at the time of the mission, while it could easily be that the tags have ceased to exist. In addition, the mission-tree forgets the existence of Epirus and Naxos, two other Crusader states which could still be around when the mission is completed. As such, it might be better to have the mission be a bit more dynamic: giving you claims on all of the provinces owned by the Crusader states in Anatolia and Balkans regions, with some fallback claims if none of the Crusader States exist.
The Idea was that territories that were under Venetian control would be handled by the event if you side with Venice or non of them Rum will consider those crusader states to be non-existent since they exist under the heel of Venic (Who is an ally or trade partner)

  • "Amputation" could work a bit like the Novgorodian mission "Dethrone the Rurikovichs", which requires to ensure no nation in the East Slavic culture group with a Rurikovich ruler exist, unless they're a subject of Novgorod: maybe you'd have to ensure that "Timurids" tag no longer exists and no nation in Persia, Khorasan and Central Asia regions exist that are ruled by a Timurid (unless they're your vassal)?
Sounds about right I will look at "Dethrone the Rurikovichs" and give OP the adjustments

  • I suppose when you wrote "The Italian Communes" event, you meant that you'd gain an alliance with the nation that you chose not to attack, since currently, you're suggesting getting an alliance with the nation you gain claims to. You might want to change that.
There was a mix up yes

  • While I like the idea of allowing Rûm to shift the Turkish culture to Turani and thus get a cultural union over Persian lands, I am not so sure about assimilating Turkmeni and Azerbaijani cultures to it as well. Given that Azerbaijani is already a part of Persian culture group, it feels rather redundant to shift them to Turani culture. I am not sure what to say about the Turkmeni, though. Regardless, the fact that these Turani lands would be disjointed would make the unification feel off: how would three Turkic ethnic groups that don't even share a land-border gain a shared sense of unity? In addition, I am also not so certain about calling the Turco-Persian culture "Turani": perhaps "Turkoman" would be a better choice?
It was based off of the Mongol mission which unifies the mongols into a single culture. Turani is based off the Turans a legendary people, in the shanameh, that the turks considered to be their progenitor at the time. I think Turkmeni are Turkoman?

  • Finally, I feel that the mission tree should have a few missions different for all of the beyliks, to make them feel a bit more distinct from one another. Say, Candar's and Karaman's unique missions could involve them reclaiming their old cores, while Ramazan's and Dulkandir's old missions might have something to do with managing the opinions and interests of Mamluks and Ottomans.
Dulkandir might have a mission related to their royal marriages and alliancces with the Ottomans and focusing on re-extending their influence from Kırşehir to Mosul, Ramazan might have a mission focusing on the Bektashi tradition of Yüreğir Turks and the cultural exchange with the large Armenian community in Cilicia, Candar might have a mission focusing on internal development as well as their navy and attacks on the Genoese outposts, and Karaman could have a mission focusing on their old Mamluk alliance, and either securing control of strategic commercial areas that their economy relied on or diversifying their economic activities. That sort of stuff.​
Fair enough my knowledge of the area is broad but no allways deep I will have a look and make appropriate additions
 

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The Italian Communes

Option 1: "The Venetians are snakes" Gain Claims to all Venitian provinces in Balkans, Pontic Steppe or Anatolia, Become Allied with Genoa
Option 2: "The Geonoese are much too arrogant" Gain Claims to all Geonoese provinces in Balkans, Pontic Steppe or Anatolia, Become Allied with Venice
Option 3: "No deal with Infidels" Gain Claims to all Geonoese and Venitian provinces in Balkans, Pontic Steppe or Anatolia
Option 4: "Give peace a chance" Gain +10% Domestic trade, +50 Opinion with Genoa and Venice Genoa and Venice lose claims in PC tag

Amputation:

Prequisite: "No nations in the Iranian culture group with a ruler of the Timurid dynasty exist, unless they are a subject of Rum"
 

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In overall things to be updated for Turks in Anatolia:

1. Ottoman mission tree revisit (its not complete now, lot to be added from my threads) (Barbarossa to Algeria, supporting other pirate nations, Tripolitania, Ethiopia, Aceh adventures etc)
2. mission tree for Turkish minors to restore Rum
3. mission tree for Rum to restore Greater Seljuk (no new tag needed)
4. Alaiye (new province, new nation) in 1444 vassal to Karaman
5. releasable Karesi (connected to Byzantium), Ahi (republic), Artuqid (unique Turkish nation), Teke, Canik/Chepni beyliks.
6. ideas for Ramazan, Aydın and Dulkadir
7. Anatolian Sufi orders: Mevleviye (Mawlawiyah), Bektashi, Naqshbandi
8. Events about Yörüks of Anatolia
9. Art for Anatolian buildings/terrain
10. Timariot Sipahi-Nobility estate updates
11. Possible Enderun mechanic to draft advisors https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-state-sipahi-sultanate-of-women-era.1068546/
12. Sultanate of Women era to be expanded
 
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