Tukhachevsky's Army and the Politburo (Interactive TFH 4.02) -- Admin thread

[SirkTheMonkey]

Thank you Comrade General Vatutin for the briefing regarding the importance of the Red Army. I agree that our divisions should be given adequate arms and equipment as a priority, so that they may continue to defend and later spread Socialism. Comrade Zaitsev brings up a good point though, the current plan neglects our navy. The navy has always been a friend of the Revolution; if any member of the Bureau wishes to be reminded I am sure we could organise a screening of Eisenstein's great work Battleship Potemkin. My concern on this matter is not just ideological though. I know it is not within the 10 Year Plan to spread Socialism to the Americas but we will need a powerful navy at some point if the Revolution is to spread, with support, across the seas. Our own Revolution proved to us that the Reactionaries will do anything they can to keep navies out of the hands of Socialists. Therefore I feel that it is best, from my perspective overlooking Ideological Purity, that some resources be kept going into our navy so that its knowledge and traditions may survive until such time that it becomes again essential for Revolution to spread.

Again regarding the matter of industry, may I ask why STAVKA has responsibility for selecting the sites of new factories? Should that not fall under the jurisdiction of the Commissariat of Industry?

P. P. Teterev

 

[son of liberty]

Greetings Comrades. With the ascension of my deputy to full membership in the Politburo, the NKVD requires a new deputy. Current ambassador to the USA, Alik Fyodorovich Pasternak, has accepted the appointment. May he perform as well as my former deputies.
Genrikh Yagoda
Chief NKVD

 

[jeeshadow]

Greetings Comrades. With the ascension of my deputy to full membership in the Politburo, the NKVD requires a new deputy. Current ambassador to the USA, Alik Fyodorovich Pasternak, has accepted the appointment. May he perform as well as my former deputies.
Genrikh Yagoda
Chief NKVD

Thank you for this honor comrade. I will shall protect our people and our great revolutionary principles.

 

[Belgiumruler]

I know that no official plan was passed, and I know I am not a full member. But It is my duty to remind the politburo of it, and I want to give 5 IC to the navy for the construction of Trznsports and submarines.

V.G. Zaitsev

 

[Gen. Marshall]

I know that no official plan was passed, and I know I am not a full member. But It is my duty to remind the politburo of it, and I want to give 5 IC to the navy for the construction of Trznsports and submarines.

V.G. Zaitsev

Comrade Zaitsev,

We have swathes of submarines already, and I am absolutely clueless what we should do with them. Sinking them in Japanese harbors in the event of a war might be the most prudent action. The transports, however, are something we might want to look into next year.

Feodor Vasilevich Sokolov, People's Commissar for Justice

 

[shierholzer]

Just to say, I DEMAND that 5 IC is been spended for Naval Production, like debated a long time ago.

First of all, I'll ignore your rude behavior this time.
Regarding the naval production discussion:
You probably know, that I'm far from being a friend of these ambitions. However, I see the wishes of some Comrades to get at least some transport ships - something I've stored in my mind.
Since ships have only offensive uses for us (no significant overseas territory to defend), we should stop thinking about them, till the RKKA is able to deliver offensive strikes against a possible major enemy (Using them for commando raids on weak neighbors is a nice goodie, yes. However, Defense will not fund them if it's their sole use). At the point, where the so called Red Wall is established, I will talk about naval ambitions - if it's wished then - but definitely not before (at least not with me being NK Defense).

 

[shierholzer]

1-Year Plan for Weapons, and/or other investments made to secure our nation and the spread of world revolution
Final
This proposal is top secret. Any leakage to unauthorized persons will be punished by Comrade Yagoda.
--
BLOCK A:
Position 1: 10x IC*
Position 2: 2x Armor^
Position 3: 2/5x ART+
Position 4: 2/5x AT+
Position 5: 1/2x INT-
^: Composition ARM/MOT/TD/ART | LARM/MOT/TD/ART already in queue count as armor | reserve unit
*: after the current IC queue is finished, there are 10 IC to be produced at top priority
+: both to be produced as Reserves | 2 till we have War Economy, 5 after
-: 1 till War Economy, 2 after
--
BLOCK B:
Position 1: 1/10 Rifle*
Position 2: 2/10 Armor^
Position 3: 3/10 INT
Position 4: 4/10 CAS+
*: Composition INF/INF/ART/AT | reserve unit
^: Composition ARM/MOT/TD/ART | reserve unit
+: till CAS is researched, shift IC to Position 3
--
APPENDIX:
Block A is to be on top of the queue all times.
Block B is meant to fill the remaining IC - according the ratios in italic:
If 100IC would be available for Block B, 10IC would went into rifle divisions, 20IC into armor divisions, 30IC into interceptor squadrons and 40IC into CAS squadrons (till CAS is researched, the 40IC will be shifted to interceptor squadrons, so that they would've 70IC available).

Signed, NK Julia Rakobolskaja - People's Commissariat for Defense
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Since no serious complaints regarding Revision 1 reached my office, I call voting for the - above posted - final proposal (no difference to revision 1).
--
Since I had been asked last year: Unless we're dragged into a major war, the next plan will be on 1 January '38 - Defense' is running on a 12-month cycle.
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1-Year Plan for Weapons, and/or other investments made to secure our nation and the spread of world revolution
Final
This proposal is top secret. Any leakage to unauthorized persons will be punished by Comrade Yagoda.
--
BLOCK A:
Position 1: 10x IC*
Position 2: 2x Armor^
Position 3: 2/5x ART+
Position 4: 2/5x AT+
Position 5: 1/2x INT-
^: Composition ARM/MOT/TD/ART | LARM/MOT/TD/ART already in queue count as armor | reserve unit
*: after the current IC queue is finished, there are 10 IC to be produced at top priority
+: both to be produced as Reserves | 2 till we have War Economy, 5 after
-: 1 till War Economy, 2 after
--
BLOCK B:
Position 1: 1/10 Rifle*
Position 2: 2/10 Armor^
Position 3: 3/10 INT
Position 4: 4/10 CAS+
*: Composition INF/INF/ART/AT | reserve unit
^: Composition ARM/MOT/TD/ART | reserve unit
+: till CAS is researched, shift IC to Position 3
--
APPENDIX:
Block A is to be on top of the queue all times.
Block B is meant to fill the remaining IC - according the ratios in italic:
If 100IC would be available for Block B, 10IC would went into rifle divisions, 20IC into armor divisions, 30IC into interceptor squadrons and 40IC into CAS squadrons (till CAS is researched, the 40IC will be shifted to interceptor squadrons, so that they would've 70IC available).

Signed, NK Julia Rakobolskaja - People's Commissariat for Defense

))

 

[Gen. Marshall]

This plan I can approve.

 

[SovietAmerika]

I approve of this plan as well.

- Comrade M.V. Kamensky

 

[son of liberty]

Comrade Rakobolskaja, why are we pairing artillery with mobile forces? Won't that slow their speed to a crawl? Do you plan to upgrade the artillery to a motorized version later?

 

[Vrael_1492]

Your plan is good. I approve

- V.M. Sakharov, NK Finance

 

[shierholzer]

Comrade Rakobolskaja, why are we pairing artillery with mobile forces? Won't that slow their speed to a crawl? Do you plan to upgrade the artillery to a motorized version later?

Comrade Yagoda,
Your assumption is right. We don't have the ability to produce motorized artillery right now. However, Comrade Yakushev assured me, that his department is able to develop the trucks needed for towing our guns till late '38. Defense believes, that training artillery units with the formations they're going to be in combat with is the best way to train them - even if all of their equipment isn't available right now.
~ NK Julia Rakobolskaja - People's Commissariat for Defense

 

[Plutonium95]

I Apporve of Comrade Rakobolskja's plan.

-N.K. Glazkov

 

[Avindian]

That makes five votes for the plan; if we get a sixth, it will pass.

Comrade Vatutin,

Did you intend on making any additional changes to the OOB at this time? If so, you can tell us now. I would be very appreciative if you would put your factory sites into a simple, easy to read, document as well.

Stalin

 

[son of liberty]

Comrade Yagoda,
Your assumption is right. We don't have the ability to produce motorized artillery right now. However, Comrade Yakushev assured me, that his department is able to develop the trucks needed for towing our guns till late '38. Defense believes, that training artillery units with the formations they're going to be in combat with is the best way to train them - even if all of their equipment isn't available right now.
~ NK Julia Rakobolskaja - People's Commissariat for Defense

I accept your answer and approve your plan.

 

[red_KLG]

I also approve the Defence plan.

A.Y.

 

[Belgiumruler]

(( Has STAVKA any plans of adding theater commanders ? Like STAVKA decide what theater got what troops and the theater commander assign them further, just want to now I there are such plans ))

 

[shierholzer]

(( Has STAVKA any plans of adding theater commanders ? Like STAVKA decide what theater got what troops and the theater commander assign them further, just want to now I there are such plans ))

I don't think so - at least not currently. As of now, we're at peace, and face only one major front - why delegate.
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With the votes of Comrades Yagoda and Yakushev, Defense passed.

 

[Gen. Marshall]

(( Has STAVKA any plans of adding theater commanders ? Like STAVKA decide what theater got what troops and the theater commander assign them further, just want to now I there are such plans ))

((It might be phun in the future))

 

[Davout]

((I have to race to work so I will be brief.

OOB file is attached (hopefully) which includes movement orders to deploy the Red Wall. Please make sure you use the right file this time.

Deployments:

1. Factories to be deployed to Perm, Omsk and Novosibirsk in that order and in rotation of 1 factory each lot produced.
2. New Tank Divisions to be deployed to Voronezh. A new 11th Mechanized Corps is to be created at Voronezh for the new divisions. The new Corps is to be assigned directly to Western Direction.
3. New ART and AT can be assigned randomly to existing Rifle Divisions on the basis of 1 of each for each division.

I also vote in favour of the Production plan of shierholzer.

More elaborate comments this evening after work.))









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