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Very well, here are the goals I propose:


Operation August Storm: Manchuria/Manchukuo, Communist China, and Korea must be part of Comintern(puppets or allies in the case of China)
Comintern presence (Puppet) goals for: Yugoslavia, Albania, East Germany, Denmark, Norway, Greece, Czechoslovakia, Sweden, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Turkey, and East Germany (Berlin).
Annexation of: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland, Afghanistan, and Poland
Communist control of: the straits (i.e. Istanbul), Frankfurt, Munich, Tokyo, Sapporo, Hong Kong, Karelia, Spain, Czechoslovakia, Persia, Iraq, Syria, and Saudi Arabia

((I count 31 out of 15 possible War Goals, shierholzer ;)))
 

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((I count 31 out of 15 possible War Goals, shierholzer ;)))
((LMAO. Some of them overlap. We are the USSR. Should we have the same goals as the weak capitalists? or the evil fascists? Besides, I accidentally put East Germany twice. If we only want 15 actual war goals, then I propose:))
Comintern presence (Puppet) goals for: Yugoslavia, Albania, Denmark, Norway, Greece, Czechoslovakia, Sweden, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, Turkey, and East Germany (Berlin).
Annexation of: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland, and Poland((The Baltics are only 1 goal imo))
 

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Regarding: Victory Conditions
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Comrades,

I have assigned one of my department's clerks to the comparison of all the proposals that have been made. His report is on my desk right now. Note that small mistakes in this report are possible, as this specific clerk is rather tired today.

If we disregard NF Yagoda's plan for now, there seems to be a general consensus that 11 specific goals should be pursued one way or another:
1. Secure control of the Bosphorus Strait
2. Complete "Operation Bagration" (Germany)
- 3. Install a puppet regime in (Eastern) Germany
- 4. Annex Poland
5. Complete "Operation August Storm" (China)
- 6. Install a puppet regime in Manchukuo
- 7. Install a puppet regime in Korea
8. Install a puppet regime in Sweden
9. Install a puppet regime in Czechoslovakia
10. Install a puppet regime in Yugoslavia
11. Install a puppet regime in Romania

For the remaining 4 goals, there seem to be four drafted options:
NF Hrynko - Conservative plan: Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia.
NF Yakushev - Offensive plan: Bulgaria, Persia*, Saudi Arabia*, Greece.
NF Vatutin - Middle way: Finland, Baltics*, Persia / Spain**, Greece.

Note that there is also Comrade Genrikh Yagoda's plan, which can be read in the previous memorandum. This plan is very offensive towards Europe. This comes at the cost of influence in Asia, however we can still continue operations there if we so wish.

- Kombrig Feodor Vasilevich Sokolov, People's Commissar for Justice


* Requires modding
** Needs to be specified (I like Spain)
 
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Dear Comrades,

I am awed by the wealth of ideas that we can reach in such a short time. With men (and women) like us our Union will never be bored that is for sure. Amongst all of these great ideas, one in particular seems the most feasible, NK Vatutin's plan. For one, our neighbors will be much more willing to side with us if we give them the freedom to choose their own policies (a shift to communism will occur naturally upon seeing the greatness of the Soviet Union).
We must strive to keep our plans for gaining new land and allies responsible. Places like Saudi Arabia are to far from Soviet influence and holding it would be nearly impossible against an attack from an African or Indian power such as Great Britain. The alternativel of Bulgaria and Greece is much more reasonable, especially when coupled with our Turkish ambitions. I feel that keeping our land and that of our allies mostly contiguous is key due to our limited ability to project force with our out of date navy. The proposal for Spain is a reasonable exception due to its military potential and ability to project force on the opposite side of Europe in the event of war with Hitler, and Soviet access to the Atlantic. With that said, NK Vatutin, you have my full support in your plans for our glorious nation.

- People's Commissar for Communication Viktor Ivanovich Glazkov

Comrade Glazkov,

you may be right about Saudi Arabia and the effect its occupation may have on the imperialists, but I urge you not to dismiss Persia. Not only this country shares borders with us and the decadent United Kingdom, but also contains valuable oil. Initial intelligence reports in research undertaken by industialised countries suggest a shift towards automobiles and airplanes. Our installations in Baku will definitely not be sufficient to service our maximum potential once we achieve it.

Aleksandr Aleksandrovich Yakushev - Chief of personal security, NKVD
 

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I thank you for the support Comrade Milena Vladimirovna. However the countries of France and Italy are neither economically nor politically viable unless the Red Army, meets the Pyrenees. Until we secure the Eastern Europe, we do not have a strong enough base in which to support and guide the revolution in Italy. Until we secure all of Central Europe, the same can be said about France. I admire your idealism, however as Narkomfin my job is to be the clear eye on what we can and can't do, as opposed to what we should and shouldn't. That said, if we secure a united communist German State, and our resources allow it, a drive for the Lowlands, France and Italy should be the first item on our list. To have control of Western Europe would greatly benefit the Soviet Union.

~Comrade Hryhoriy Fedorovych Hrynko; Narkomfin

Do not fear, Comrade Hryhoriy Fedorovych. I do understand that one step must be taken at a time. The reason why I proposed a Communist France and Italy was to merely expand our power in the most optimal places. After all, would you not agree that the capitalists in London and D.C. would be petrified by a red Altantic? And of course Germany should be unified under Communism. An Eastern-only GDR is never an acceptable option!

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Comrade Glazkov,

you may be right about Saudi Arabia and the effect its occupation may have on the imperialists, but I urge you not to dismiss Persia. Not only this country shares borders with us and the decadent United Kingdom, but also contains valuable oil. Initial intelligence reports in research undertaken by industialised countries suggest a shift towards automobiles and airplanes. Our installations in Baku will definitely not be sufficient to service our maximum potential once we achieve it.

Aleksandr Aleksandrovich Yakushev - Chief of personal security, NKVD
Comrade Yakushev,

I believe that you misunderstand me. I would happily see Persia under Soviet control. You are quite right about the many advantages that we would reap. What particularly interests me, is the access to ports in the Indian Ocean, and as a direct neighbor Persia would serve that purpose beautifully as we could easily move troops to protect our interests there. The other benifit, of course, is the direct access to British India should the time come that we feel it need be liberated. Oil, while important, is a secondary concern as I believe we have enough right here to fill our needs. So you see, I absolutely support Persia as being a part of our ten year plan, and apologize for making it seem otherwise.

- People's Commissar for Communication Viktor Ivanovich Glazkov
 

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Comrades,

I have assigned one of my department's clerks to the comparison of all the proposals that have been made. His report is on my desk right now. Note that small mistakes in this report are possible, as this specific clerk is rather tired today.

If we disregard NF Yagoda's plan for now, there seems to be a general consensus that 11 specific goals should be pursued one way or another:
1. Secure control of the Bosphorus Strait
2. Complete "Operation Bagration" (Germany)
- 3. Install a puppet regime in (Eastern) Germany
- 4. Annex Poland
5. Complete "Operation August Storm" (China)
- 6. Install a puppet regime in Manchukuo
- 7. Install a puppet regime in Korea
8. Install a puppet regime in Sweden
9. Install a puppet regime in Czechoslovakia
10. Install a puppet regime in Yugoslavia
11. Install a puppet regime in Romania

For the remaining 4 goals, there seem to be four drafted options:
NF Hrynko - Conservative plan: Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia.
NF Yakushev - Offensive plan: Bulgaria, Persia*, Saudi Arabia*, Greece.
NF Vatutin - Middle way: Finland, Baltics*, Persia / Spain**, Greece.

Note that there is also Comrade Genrikh Yagoda's plan, which can be read in the previous memorandum. This plan is very offensive towards Europe. This comes at the cost of influence in Asia, however we can still continue operations there if we so wish.

- Kombrig Feodor Vasilevich Sokolov, People's Commissar for Justice


* Requires modding
** Needs to be specified (I like Spain)
Comrade Sokolov,

I applaud you and your clerks work, but I wonder why Operation Bagration is a goal, and the results are seperate goals themselves? Could we not strike the operation as a goal, leaving only the results we wish to gain, which would allow us to pursue both Persia and Spain as part of the Middle Way option?

- People's Commissar for Communication Viktor Ivanovich Glazkov
 

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Dear fellow Narkoms and members of the Politburo, I am going to alter my "Conservative Plan":

NF Hrynko - Conservative plan: Finland, Baltic States, Persia, Afghanistan.

I have combined the Baltic countries into a single goal, as per the others proposals. Persia will secure our both any future oil need and secure our Southern Front. Afghanistan will secure the mountain passes into India, allowing us unparalleled control and access to both Central Asia and India.
 

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Report to STAVKA,

Here is a report of the current state of the Pacific fleet, based in Vladivostok:

Good:
3 Modern Submarine flotilla's, the best Submarines available in the Soviet union equipped with Sonar equipment.

Bad:

2 outdated submarines, WWI era.
1 outdated Destroyer, also WWI
1 outdated Tactical bomber, WWI and useless for the navy.
Only 5 Submarine flotillas, more are necessary for cutting Japanese supply lines in case of a war.

Necessary before 1939:

Expand to 12 Up to date Submarine Flotilla's
6 Naval Bomber and 2 Multi - Roles for escort.
8 Interceptors for intercepting Japanese Bombers.
8 Transport flotilla's, currently 1.
4 up to date DD, for escorting the Transports

Recommended but not necessary:
4 light cruiser
2 heavy Cruisers


of course everything need to be at 1938 techs or higher. Hopefully STAVKA will do something with it, we need a strong force in the Paficic, We need to liberate Japan early on!! Note: this is only for the Naval forces and Naval Aviation Forces, i don't now anything about the Army and Amry Air Forcen so no report for that.

V.G. Zaitsev, commissar Vladivostok Naval Base.
 

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Comrade Sokolov,

I applaud you and your clerks work, but I wonder why Operation Bagration is a goal, and the results are seperate goals themselves? Could we not strike the operation as a goal, leaving only the results we wish to gain, which would allow us to pursue both Persia and Spain as part of the Middle Way option?

- People's Commissar for Communication Viktor Ivanovich Glazkov

Comrade Viktor Ivanovich,

My instructions for the clerk were to simply gather all information and present them in an understandable summary. All plans, except for Comrade People's Commissar Yagoda's "Europe" plan, listed these results as goals separate from the main operation.

I have been told that this is an administrative "trick" to lower the amount of victory conditions we need, and therefore the general offensiveness of the plans is lower. However, in the case of the Middle Way option, I would advice against using this administrative trick. The choice between supporting Spanish and Persian communists is not one we should need to make, so I agree that scrapping the operation as a goal is a good option here.

Comrade Vatutin, what is your opinion on this?

- Kombrig Feodor Vasilevich Sokolov, People's Commissar for Justice
 

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Comrades

As candidate member and commissar of the Vladivostok Naval Base, I think our priorities need to lay in the East. Japan wants to expand and is rising in a Superpower. Our goals for the next 10 Years would be to secure the Harbor of Hong Kong, invade the Japanese homelands for Tokyo, and destroy their puppets in August Storm. Also the Istanbul straits is nessecary for the control of the seas.

V.G. Zaitsev

Unfortunately I find myself disagreeing with Comrade Zaitsev's view on how best to handle the Soviet Unions position in the world. I believe that Europe, in particular Eastern Europe, should be our main cause for concern currently. It would be fool hardy to risk focusing on Asian diplomatic matters when even as we speak the Hun and his capitalist allies are preparing to rear their ugly heads. It is clear to me that our goals should focus on securing Eastern Europe nations to buffer our glorious nations from our ideologically backwards oppressors in the west.

Col. Ivan Stepanovich Konev - Commander, North Caucasus Military District.
 

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Unfortunately I find myself disagreeing with Comrade Zaitsev's view on how best to handle the Soviet Unions position in the world. I believe that Europe, in particular Eastern Europe, should be our main cause for concern currently. It would be fool hardy to risk focusing on Asian diplomatic matters when even as we speak the Hun and his capitalist allies are preparing to rear their ugly heads. It is clear to me that our goals should focus on securing Eastern Europe nations to buffer our glorious nations from our ideologically backwards oppressors in the west.

Col. Ivan Stepanovich Konev - Commander, North Caucasus Military District.
Comrade
I understand you view, Europe has more industry, people and infrastructure. But that,s why a strike in the east is nessecary we Can't wait for Japan to Invade Siberia. We are backwards with our Navy, but by securing Bases we can control the seas with Subs and Cruisers. Also look at the resources of Indonesia, Indochina,.... Nobody expect it, And USA is in closer range...

V.G. Zaitsev
Greeting from Vlaidvostok.
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Regarding: Victory Conditions
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Comrades,

I have assigned one of my department's clerks to the comparison of all the proposals that have been made. His report is on my desk right now. Note that small mistakes in this report are possible, as this specific clerk is rather tired today.

If we disregard NF Yagoda's plan for now, there seems to be a general consensus that 11 specific goals should be pursued one way or another:
1. Secure control of the Bosphorus Strait
2. Complete "Operation Bagration" (Germany)
- 3. Install a puppet regime in (Eastern) Germany
- 4. Annex Poland
5. Complete "Operation August Storm" (China)
- 6. Install a puppet regime in Manchukuo
- 7. Install a puppet regime in Korea
8. Install a puppet regime in Sweden
9. Install a puppet regime in Czechoslovakia
10. Install a puppet regime in Yugoslavia
11. Install a puppet regime in Romania



For the remaining 4 goals, there seem to be four drafted options:
NF Hrynko - Conservative plan: Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia.
NF Yakushev - Offensive plan: Bulgaria, Persia*, Saudi Arabia*, Greece.
NF Vatutin - Middle way: Finland, Baltics*, Persia / Spain**, Greece.

Note that there is also Comrade Genrikh Yagoda's plan, which can be read in the previous memorandum. This plan is very offensive towards Europe. This comes at the cost of influence in Asia, however we can still continue operations there if we so wish.

- Kombrig Feodor Vasilevich Sokolov, People's Commissar for Justice


* Requires modding
** Needs to be specified (I like Spain)
Your clerk does good work, however I see little conflict between this plan and my plan. The main difference being my plan is a bit more "offensively oriented" then your clerk's summary. Albania, Denmark, Norway, Greece, Hungary, and Bulgaria are the only ares of difference. Will we puppet Romania and Yugoslavia while ignoring Albania? Should we take the Bosporus yet leave it open to attack by Bulgaria, Greece, or Turkey? Shall we defeat Germany, Poland, and Romania yet leave Hungary alone? Shall we retake Finland, Puppet Sweden, puppet Germany, yet leave a capitalist Denmark or Norway? Please explain your logic comrade. Help me to understand why you would leave the Motherland open to attack with these capitalists free to threaten our interests?
 

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Unfortunately I find myself disagreeing with Comrade Zaitsev's view on how best to handle the Soviet Unions position in the world. I believe that Europe, in particular Eastern Europe, should be our main cause for concern currently. It would be fool hardy to risk focusing on Asian diplomatic matters when even as we speak the Hun and his capitalist allies are preparing to rear their ugly heads. It is clear to me that our goals should focus on securing Eastern Europe nations to buffer our glorious nations from our ideologically backwards oppressors in the west.

Col. Ivan Stepanovich Konev - Commander, North Caucasus Military District.
The NKVD agrees with STAVKA here. Eastern Europe should be our primary sphere of influence. Perhaps we can concentrate on Asia as a second five year plan?
 

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((Sorry for the OOC, The Foreign Minister will state her preferences as soon as I can get onto TFH. <3))
 

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Dear Comrades,

As Foreign Minister, I have outlined a good policy on the expansion of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

Goals outlined by Foreign Ministry Document 1935-DZ

Operation: Bagration (Occupation of all of Poland and capturing Berlin)
Operation: August Storm (invade Manchukuo)
Poland must be a puppet (conquer by force)
Finland must be a puppet (conquered)
Romania must be puppet
Hungary must be puppet
Bulgaria and Yugoslavia must be puppeted
East Germany must be part of the Comintern
Manchukuo and Korea must be part of the Comintern.
We must dominate the straits (Istanbul)
Comintern controls Frankfurt and Munchen (capture West Germany)
Control Tokyo (conquer Japan)
Get Mexico into the Comintern
Czechslovakia into Comintern
Turkey as part of the Comintern


Best regards,
NK Foreign Affairs
Anastasia Ivanovna Petrova
 

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Your clerk does good work, however I see little conflict between this plan and my plan. The main difference being my plan is a bit more "offensively oriented" then your clerk's summary. Albania, Denmark, Norway, Greece, Hungary, and Bulgaria are the only ares of difference. Will we puppet Romania and Yugoslavia while ignoring Albania? Should we take the Bosporus yet leave it open to attack by Bulgaria, Greece, or Turkey? Shall we defeat Germany, Poland, and Romania yet leave Hungary alone? Shall we retake Finland, Puppet Sweden, puppet Germany, yet leave a capitalist Denmark or Norway? Please explain your logic comrade. Help me to understand why you would leave the Motherland open to attack with these capitalists free to threaten our interests?

Comrade People's Commissar Yagoda,

Please note that the options for victory conditions that my clerk outlined do not necessarily reflect my personal opinions. They were simply gathered from the information supplied by other Commissars. I do realize that your plan is not fully incorporated into the summary - this is due the fact that the other plans are more alike, and due to the late publication date of your plan.

If you would like to hear my personal opinion on this matter: I think it is important to have a buffer of smaller, independent countries between our Union and the Capitalist power blocs. Norway and Greece (as puppet) are prime examples of this kind of country. As for Albania, I simply do not consider it to be of such importance to warrant its place in our 10-year plan, at the cost of our Asian operations. This does however not mean that we couldn't install a puppet regime there if the oppurtunity arose - only that it is not one of our main goals.

- Kombrig Feodor Vasilevich Sokolov, People's Commissar for Justice

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Addendum: With the recent proposal of another plan by our Commissar for Foreign Affairs, we have a total of five plans in circulation. Three of these, the more moderate options, are very alike. Therefore, I'd like to suggest a merging of NF Hrynko's "Conservative plan", NF Yakushev's "Offensive plan" and NF Vatutin's "Middle Way". The combined plan would, to my best judgement, look like this:

Sphere of Influence Plan
1. Secure control of the Bosphorus Strait
2. Install a puppet regime in (Eastern) Germany
3. Annex Poland
4. Annex the Baltic States
5. Annex Persia
6. Complete "Operation August Storm" (China)
- 7. Install a puppet regime in Manchukuo
- 8. Install a puppet regime in Korea
9. Install a puppet regime in Sweden
10. Install a puppet regime in Czechoslovakia
11. Install a puppet regime in Yugoslavia
12. Install a puppet regime in Romania
13. Install a puppet regime in Greece
14. Install a puppet regime in Finland
15. Support a left-wing regime in Spain

The other plans would then be:
NK Yagoda's Europe First Plan
NK Petrova's World Communism Plan


I would like to hear the opinion of Comrades People's Commissars Hrynko, Yakushev and Vatutin about the merging of their plans.
 
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Dear Comrades

Unfortunately it is early morning here and I must leave soon for a staff meeting which will take up the rest of the day. However, briefly, I must say that I am always mindful of the wise words of the great Russian strategist, Vizzini, that the most classic blunder is to get involved in a land war in Asia.

I too thank Comrade NK Sokolov for his efficiency. I must admit that I was thinking of doing the same thing but my clerks are obviously not as efficient (I must do something about that - possibly a posting to the Kola Peninsula will generate some enthusiasm). On my version, Spain is an existing waComrade r goal option and so would not require modding. Rather than modding the Baltic States or Persia, we would select 1 of the Baltic States (my natural inclination is Lithuania as the biggest but it can be any of the 3) as representative of them all, and then select another Baltic state as the "flag" for Persia with the Politburo making a gentlemens' (and ladies') agreement that in reality this flag would not be satisfied until Persia in annexed or otherwise joins the Comintern.

Given a choice, I would prefer Spain as a goal over Persia although I would intend to liberate Persia regardless. Control of Spain would effectively tell the world who is master of Europe and be the bastion for our next phase into the New World. The weather is also warm and the women are most beautiful, I am told.

As to reviewing our forces and needs, this will have to be done over the weekend.

Yours fraternally
NF Vatutin (Col)
NK Stavka
 

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Well comrades,

My own Foreign Ministry plan has already entailed plans to bring Persia to the side of communism, as their oil supplies could do good for the Soviet Union's war machine, as the Baku fields won't last forever. However, I am willing to incline Spain being added, however, this means a potential war with the rest of the world under capitalist influence, which in all wiseness, may not be the best idea for our great Union.

Thank you,
Comrade Ivanovna Petrova
NK Foreign Affairs