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We cannot know when our enemies may attack; I defer to the wisdom of the Politburo on whether or not we should upgrade now or later.

M. N. Tukhachevsky, STAVKA
 

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We cannot know when our enemies may attack; I defer to the wisdom of the Politburo on whether or not we should upgrade now or later.
((Strictly technically speaking, upgrading later on is a bit better. However, since it's a quite small bonus you get from better practicals to upgrades (each tech level boosts the unit cost by 1% - that's basically what you've to pay with upgrades - minus eventual reserve bonuses), and more or less neglectable. Also - unless we conquer more than Finland, the Baltic States, Eastern Poland and another minor before Barbarossa (in this case either the Yankees or the Tommies will go crazy and dow us) - nobody will attack us before Summer '41 (that's the time Germany is scripted to launch Barbarossa).
 

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((Strictly technically speaking, upgrading later on is a bit better. However, since it's a quite small bonus you get from better practicals to upgrades (each tech level boosts the unit cost by 1% - that's basically what you've to pay with upgrades - minus eventual reserve bonuses), and more or less neglectable. Also - unless we conquer more than Finland, the Baltic States, Eastern Poland and another minor before Barbarossa (in this case either the Yankees or the Tommies will go crazy and dow us) - nobody will attack us before Summer '41 (that's the time Germany is scripted to launch Barbarossa).

((With all this meta-gaming I am inclined to take a stance that the world is going to end at 1938. According to the prophecies of a forgotten monk in Kazakhstan, men in steel boxes will emerge from the West, while men in floating still beast will approach from the East. If the end is happening at 38, we have to be prepared for a Super War by 1937. Comrades !!! We only need tanks and upgrades... BUILD TANKS.. Scrap trade, scrap intelligence, scrap techs... THE END IS NEAR !!! :p :p ))
 

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((With all this meta-gaming I am inclined to take a stance that the world is going to end at 1938. According to the prophecies of a forgotten monk in Kazakhstan, men in steel boxes will emerge from the West, while men in floating still beast will approach from the East. If the end is happening at 38, we have to be prepared for a Super War by 1937. Comrades !!! We only need tanks and upgrades... BUILD TANKS.. Scrap trade, scrap intelligence, scrap techs... THE END IS NEAR !!! :p :p ))
((Well, for me, the game is something like science. If you play that game that way for a pretty long time, you'll know whom you can conquer, without the allies getting upset on your warmongering (basically the same thing why they dow'ed Hitler - he warmongered to much), which techs give the best cost/effect ratio, and so on. However, playing an Avindan AAR, is something else than playing on my own - just because even if you impose the rule, that supporting regular troops of major parachute operations are also manual, this would - at least with my personal playstyle - resulting in practically all major theaters on manual control all the time, since paras are about 20-30% of my total army, and especially as the Soviets used in gigantic 100+ division assaults across the entire eastern front - in repeating waves, with responsive reserves and so on. Once I pocketed 95% of the Red army on Barbarossa+7 - by Barbarossa+150 the Red Army was more or less not existing, and Panzers just stopping to refill (OK, that involves lot's of luck, but with paras and the right tactic, 50% Red Army encircled in the opening Phase of Barbarossa is normal - the other way round, the target is to isolate and defeat most German Panzer divisions, in Commando-like assaults - against the AI, -80% German armor loss is possible).))
 

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I support this plan.

I back the same plan as Comrade Yagoda does.

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NK Petrova

Just as well, I will defer my word of influence upon the actions of the economic and technological sectors to their respective ministers.
 

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Since Comrade Hrynko has clarified his budget now, and the clarification is acceptable for me and the Department of Defense, I'm also backing his plan.
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At least I counted four vote of agreement and zero of disagreement:
Comrades Petrova, Yagoda and Rakobolskaja.
For the ease of voting I think it's save to assume, that Comrade Hrynko will support his own proposal))
 
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Comrades, I believe that dedicating half of our industrial capacity, with respect to actual production, to upgrades may be to much. I think we should be more flexible.
 

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That makes five votes; if we get a sixth the plan passes as is.
 

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Comrade Yakushev, it is 1/3 of disposable IC following the vital production of consumer goods. The budget allows any and all unused IC from the Upgrade to be moved to Production.

I fail to see how inflexibility is occurring.

NKF H.F.H
 

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I shall be the sixth vote in support of this budget. My expertise allows me to vote on this with ease.

- People's Commissar for Trade and Industry, Milena Vladimirmovna Kamensky
 

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Great, now how about our LS? I already posted 1 idea.
 

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Comrade Yakushev, it is 1/3 of disposable IC following the vital production of consumer goods. The budget allows any and all unused IC from the Upgrade to be moved to Production.

I fail to see how inflexibility is occurring.

NKF H.F.H

Comrade,

a set of restrictions such as "If IC used on Upgrades exceeds demand, the wasted IC will be used on Production. If IC is needed for Upgrades again, the IC will be taken from Production until it reaches the cut off point of 21% of total IC, or 24.1 IC" hardly qualifies as flexibility.

I believe it should be set the opposite way. That is, if production exceeds demand, spend the rest in Upgrades, with upgrades never exceeding 12%. We need all the industrial capacity we can have to push for the final stages of the Industrialization plan.

As for the distribution of our science projects, shouldn't we first have an idea of the available leadership and its allocation to diplomacy, science, intelligence and officer corps before discussing the project queue?

Aleksandr Aleksandrovich Yakushev - Chief of personal security, NKVD
 

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It is good thing that I am Minister of Finance and you are in security eh, Comrade?
 

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As for the distribution of our science projects, shouldn't we first have an idea of the available leadership and its allocation to diplomacy, science, intelligence and officer corps before discussing the project queue?

Aleksandr Aleksandrovich Yakushev - Chief of personal security, NKVD

I made a suggestion Here I can repost it if necessary.
 

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It is good thing that I am Minister of Finance and you are in security eh, Comrade?

The fact that you can still move around Moscow and attend your meetings without the escort of a regiment of armed guards is an indication that at least one of us is doing his job as intended.

A.Y.
 

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I made a suggestion Here I can repost it if necessary.

I apologise comrade, I took the warning above the report literally and avoided reading it in detail. (( Glad to make good impression with my boss :p :p))

Your proposal for the allocation of leadership looks excellent to me.

Regards,

A.Y.
 

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Ladies and gentlemen;

Comrade Soldatov is unable to continue with his duties at present, as he has been in an accident. ((Novatheorem PMed me to say he was involved in an automobile accident; no details, but I believe him to be fine, medically.)) Therefore, one of two things must happen: we must promote a candidate member to full member, or a full member must take on the additional duty ((and vote)). I await proposals from the full members of the Politburo; candidate members may appeal to a full member to be nominated for the position.

Stalin
 

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Ladies and gentlemen;

Comrade Soldatov is unable to continue with his duties at present, as he has been in an accident. ((Novatheorem PMed me to say he was involved in an automobile accident; no details, but I believe him to be fine, medically.)) Therefore, one of two things must happen: we must promote a candidate member to full member, or a full member must take on the additional duty ((and vote)). I await proposals from the full members of the Politburo; candidate members may appeal to a full member to be nominated for the position.

Stalin
((Best wishes for a speedy recovery to NovaTheorem. If necessary, I can perform his duties until he is well enough to resume them. If any candidate wants a nomination feel free to pm me. ))
 

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((I wish you the best of health and a speedy recovery NovaTheorem))

I recommend Aleksandr Pyotrovich Gevorg, his administration experience combined with his unique ... let us say zeal will make him a suitable contender for the position.

Yakushev, you watch your tongue with your superiors.

~ NKF H.F.H

((Also, I'm updating my summery to give more of a hint into Hrynko's mind))