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OK, my AAR will be up soon. (no lie!) 
Also, my edits:
Naval Manu in Bristol due to event,
Talahassee, Mobile, and Savhannah from Spain to me,
Inflation to 6.0 from 17.8 due to sub stupidity/choosing wrong event choice.
Original inflation was 2.5, but I minted this session 3.5.
What are the AAR rewards?
Also, my edits:
Naval Manu in Bristol due to event,
Talahassee, Mobile, and Savhannah from Spain to me,
Inflation to 6.0 from 17.8 due to sub stupidity/choosing wrong event choice.
Original inflation was 2.5, but I minted this session 3.5.
What are the AAR rewards?
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TT4 said:OK, my AAR will be up soon. (no lie!)
Also, my edits:
Naval Manu in Bristol due to event,
Talahassee, Mobile, and Savhannah from Spain to me,
Inflation to 6.0 from 17.8 due to sub stupidity/choosing wrong event choice.
Original inflation was 2.5, but I minted this session 3.5.
What are the AAR rewards?
Yeah, and London to Spain. You can move english capitol to South Africa :rofl:
Star Blade don't take these things so personally. Attacking weaken OE is the only chance for most of the nations in the game. You can loose 2 provinces and still be very powerfull. It would be very unwise to loose too many provinces to rebels. Even if Russia get's it's path to Siberia they will never catch up OE in this game.
1559 – 1579 :
The year started slowly for the Russians, the armies idled around and the recruitment officers trying to seduce youngsters to join the Russian armed forces ( read: kicking down doors and dragging out anybody eligible). The only thing to do was wait until the Ottomans had completed their annexation of Astrakhan, they had promised that they would provide access and the Czar was optimistic that they would hold to their oath.
It was early 1560 that the Ottomans had taken over Astrakhan and in honour of their agreement with the Russians they gave us military access. While the Czar was in no position to object, he thought this to be not in the spirit of the agreement. So he started to prepare his armies for an imminent attack on of the few remnants of Genghis Khan’s ancestral lands, the Sibir.
Early summer 1561 the Russians claimed the steppes as their sovereign territory and declared war upon Sibir, Sibir’s allies the Khazak’s and the Mughals dishonored their military alliance leaving Sibir alone against the Russians onslaught. The Russians quickly moved across Ottoman held Orenburg one at a time in order to have a go at the Sibir. The Sibir provinces fell quickly to the onslaught and any organized resistance the Russians met was dealt with quick. The Sibir were simply too backward a people to offer any a challenge to the military might of Russia.
The war raged on for another 3 years as the Russian forces slowly covered the Sibir lands and took over control. Even though the Russians were well adverse at fighting in the snow, they took heavy casualties taking the northern most provinces of Sibir, many a good man found his grave in the snow dunes of Jalutorvosk and Tobolsk. During these years the Czar had made a deal with the boyars and further enslaved the peasants to the lands they worked and their noble lords. He also abolished the Kormlenije system and reformed the treasury, resulting in better tax income and a initial increase in research.
As the Russians took control over all of Sibir they realized that 1 province lay outside their control, and that they had to march through Mughal territory to get it. The Czar decided that to befriend them was too costly and promptly declared war, this time the Khazak’s dishonored their agreement with the Mughals, leaving them alone to fight and more importantly with no means of reaching the battlezone with additional forces. The Mughals were overrun and they gave up Emba. More importantly though at long last the Russians were able to annex the Sibir, who were quickly assimilated.
Now the Russian explorers went to work on trying to locate the shore to the east and settlers flocked to the unclaimed and wild lands of the east. It was during these times that the Russian reaffirmed their kinship with the Swedes and exchanged knowledge over territories vast and far away. It was in the later half of the 70’tees that a worrying development started to take place, the relationship with the Ottomans was deteriorating. They had demanded that the Russians beg for a trade agreement in order to trade in their markets, a demand that was most pointedly ignored by the Russians. The Russians were also beginning to resent the hold the Ottoman had over them, they would always be under their control as long as the Ottos controlled the way to the east. The Russians made inquiries to buying the province of Orenburg, but the Czar found the price the Ottoman demanded to be outrageous.
After that plans were drawn up to invade the Ottoman and take by force what they would not freely give up. Armies were assembled and a good relationship was built with the Persians which culminated in a signing of an agreement that allowed the Russians free passage in Persian lands, a neutral country to strike at the Ottos from. The Czar looked on with some dismay as the Persians declared war upon the Ottoman, but in hindsight it was the best. This way the infidel armies bashed themselves to pieces and prepared the way for the Russian forces.
The year started slowly for the Russians, the armies idled around and the recruitment officers trying to seduce youngsters to join the Russian armed forces ( read: kicking down doors and dragging out anybody eligible). The only thing to do was wait until the Ottomans had completed their annexation of Astrakhan, they had promised that they would provide access and the Czar was optimistic that they would hold to their oath.
It was early 1560 that the Ottomans had taken over Astrakhan and in honour of their agreement with the Russians they gave us military access. While the Czar was in no position to object, he thought this to be not in the spirit of the agreement. So he started to prepare his armies for an imminent attack on of the few remnants of Genghis Khan’s ancestral lands, the Sibir.
Early summer 1561 the Russians claimed the steppes as their sovereign territory and declared war upon Sibir, Sibir’s allies the Khazak’s and the Mughals dishonored their military alliance leaving Sibir alone against the Russians onslaught. The Russians quickly moved across Ottoman held Orenburg one at a time in order to have a go at the Sibir. The Sibir provinces fell quickly to the onslaught and any organized resistance the Russians met was dealt with quick. The Sibir were simply too backward a people to offer any a challenge to the military might of Russia.
The war raged on for another 3 years as the Russian forces slowly covered the Sibir lands and took over control. Even though the Russians were well adverse at fighting in the snow, they took heavy casualties taking the northern most provinces of Sibir, many a good man found his grave in the snow dunes of Jalutorvosk and Tobolsk. During these years the Czar had made a deal with the boyars and further enslaved the peasants to the lands they worked and their noble lords. He also abolished the Kormlenije system and reformed the treasury, resulting in better tax income and a initial increase in research.
As the Russians took control over all of Sibir they realized that 1 province lay outside their control, and that they had to march through Mughal territory to get it. The Czar decided that to befriend them was too costly and promptly declared war, this time the Khazak’s dishonored their agreement with the Mughals, leaving them alone to fight and more importantly with no means of reaching the battlezone with additional forces. The Mughals were overrun and they gave up Emba. More importantly though at long last the Russians were able to annex the Sibir, who were quickly assimilated.
Now the Russian explorers went to work on trying to locate the shore to the east and settlers flocked to the unclaimed and wild lands of the east. It was during these times that the Russian reaffirmed their kinship with the Swedes and exchanged knowledge over territories vast and far away. It was in the later half of the 70’tees that a worrying development started to take place, the relationship with the Ottomans was deteriorating. They had demanded that the Russians beg for a trade agreement in order to trade in their markets, a demand that was most pointedly ignored by the Russians. The Russians were also beginning to resent the hold the Ottoman had over them, they would always be under their control as long as the Ottos controlled the way to the east. The Russians made inquiries to buying the province of Orenburg, but the Czar found the price the Ottoman demanded to be outrageous.
After that plans were drawn up to invade the Ottoman and take by force what they would not freely give up. Armies were assembled and a good relationship was built with the Persians which culminated in a signing of an agreement that allowed the Russians free passage in Persian lands, a neutral country to strike at the Ottos from. The Czar looked on with some dismay as the Persians declared war upon the Ottoman, but in hindsight it was the best. This way the infidel armies bashed themselves to pieces and prepared the way for the Russian forces.
The Kingdom of England: 1579-1601
Times were good for England. Under the guidance of the great virgin Queen Elizabeth I, England knew many of the areas of the world, thanks to heroic efforts by such explorers as Frobisher, Davis, and Drake. Many Protestant, Catholic, and the pagans of north america, had been converted to Puritanism, but many more, from Ireland, to the capital London itself, remained to be brought back to the state faith. With her navy and army in good shape, and friends in Sweden, France and Spain, times were bright. However, many things had to be addressed.
Elizabeth I
The situation in north america was not good, with Sweden controlling the essential interior. Also, the economy was 6th compared to the rest of the world. Elizabeth, knowing that the Swedish lands in north america were claimed by England, reclaimed them, and the Swedes gladly and graciously regave England's rightful claims. Also, Elizabeth decided to release the cap on inflation, allowing England to fund new colonies in Australia, and more importantly allowing England to fund traders in great centres of trade such as Delhi, or Isafhan, pouring money into English coffers.
Also, many conversions were made, first in north america, eliminating some of the pagan cults there, then in Ireland, converting the catholics, and lastly most of South-West England, convincing people to give up more lenient sects of Protestantism, and favour the more radical sects that were in prominence in England.
Until 1592, no major battles had been fought on English soil, but with hidden funding, the remaining Irish catholics rose up against England with the leadership of Hugh O'Neill. Fortunately, in the first and only battle around Kilkenny, a Catholic stronghold, the Militia of the Irish Puritans from Cork and Dublin outnumbered the rebels about 4 to 1, and the rebellion was crushed, without any Royal help.
With more people becoming satisfied with Puritanism, Elizabeth turned her attention to the Far East, using trade money to found the Royal Colonial Company, who settled areas in Indonesia, parts of Africa, and Australia. Meanwhile, matters in Europe stayed much the same, with peace reigning everywhere in Europe. Through diplomacy, England was able to aquire Mobile, Talahassee, and Savannah from the Spainards, to secure English North America, and provide a land connection to Florida.
Swedish and Spanish deals in NA
Aar
OE(1579-1601)
So it is... a long war has become our mayor task….
We are ashamed of our sultan, because he is very likely to be too friendly to our neighbors…
When we have given MA to Russia we though that this would make them our friends, if allies not. But we were wrong. We have give it because Russia was weak after fighting with Poland and that how Russia repaid us???…. No more comments…
We have learned from that mistake – never give presents to anyone especially Russia…
We have a long lasting war with Persia, because we didn’t wont to increase inflation…. We will never to the same again too. Make war quick and make them efficient. This is how to deal with neighbors…
We were a little stressed when Russia has attacked us. We had a very high WE and we had some rebels to deal with…
But all in all our economy is in very good mode. We have a lot of governors and we have very good income. We will survive…
We have made some mistakes when fighting with Russia, because we have made to much infantry not cavalry which made several losses on the battlefield. But after reconsideration we managed to make a lot of cavalry now and we will take advantage on that.
Our sultans know that peasants are rebelling everywhere but what we can do about it?? We will not suffer a lost because we have greater army than Russia and we will cope with them…we hope that
We weren’t very good fighters but we are catching up our enemies from Russia and we hope to arrive at Moscow as fast as possible…
How will the future look – we don’t know. We know that we have decreased our income drastically but we will do everything to solve our problems and once again regain strength.
OE(1579-1601)
So it is... a long war has become our mayor task….
We are ashamed of our sultan, because he is very likely to be too friendly to our neighbors…
When we have given MA to Russia we though that this would make them our friends, if allies not. But we were wrong. We have give it because Russia was weak after fighting with Poland and that how Russia repaid us???…. No more comments…
We have learned from that mistake – never give presents to anyone especially Russia…
We have a long lasting war with Persia, because we didn’t wont to increase inflation…. We will never to the same again too. Make war quick and make them efficient. This is how to deal with neighbors…
We were a little stressed when Russia has attacked us. We had a very high WE and we had some rebels to deal with…
But all in all our economy is in very good mode. We have a lot of governors and we have very good income. We will survive…
We have made some mistakes when fighting with Russia, because we have made to much infantry not cavalry which made several losses on the battlefield. But after reconsideration we managed to make a lot of cavalry now and we will take advantage on that.
Our sultans know that peasants are rebelling everywhere but what we can do about it?? We will not suffer a lost because we have greater army than Russia and we will cope with them…we hope that
We weren’t very good fighters but we are catching up our enemies from Russia and we hope to arrive at Moscow as fast as possible…
How will the future look – we don’t know. We know that we have decreased our income drastically but we will do everything to solve our problems and once again regain strength.
April skip
I regret to say that but April has said that he decline to play with us more...
I'm angry at him because he could tell us a week ago about that...
I will tell Poland what agreements April has made with everyone, when we find a new perm player...(of course on priv)
I regret to say that but April has said that he decline to play with us more...
I'm angry at him because he could tell us a week ago about that...
I will tell Poland what agreements April has made with everyone, when we find a new perm player...(of course on priv)
I couldn't expect less after 2 session with Poland as AI.
btw, PLEASE, call for rewards at the end of an AAR.
btw, PLEASE, call for rewards at the end of an AAR.
TT4 ! You didn't aquire any lands from Spain. I said you can take (colonize) any other lands than Spanish. I can give you Mobile but not pure catholic iberian Tahalassee nor Savannah. You can feel free to colonise any land in east from Missisipi River. Western lands have to be discussed.
1579 – 1601 :
The Czar was relaxed, things were well in his realm and his armies were as prepared as they ever could be for an eventual war with OE. The Czar knew it would be hard fought so he was content with letting Persia and later Poland chip away at them. The Czar continued his expansion eastward, but due to a lack of a land-connection the gain was far less then it could be.
The Swedes were attacked early by the Poles and the Czar deemed it within our best interests to accept their summons. It was a bit of a distraction from OE, but as long as they were in this protracted war against Persia, it was alright. Russian armies were quickly marched from the Volga-basin to the border with Poland and as soon as the winter thawed, Russian soldiers were marching inside the Polish border. Most of the battles were conducted by the Russian and Poles on the Polish interior, it seemed the Swedes were contend to just siege their Baltic provinces and leave the fighting to Russians.
The Poles put up a fierce resistance and frustrated all attempts by the Russians to control their provinces for some time, but eventually the tides shifted and the Russian numerical superiority started to weigh in. Pskov fell to the Russians and then one province after another, surprisingly though the Poles were still hotly contesting dominion with the Russian armies. In the end, in march 1582 the Czar realized that due to overwhelming diplomatic pressure from other nations it was pointless to continue the struggle. So peace was concluded and Russia only got Pskov and Sweden only got Kurland, a paltry recompensation for all the soldiers lives that had been lost. Austria and OE were the ones most vociferous in their objections, OE even going as far as threatening intervention.
After the war time was spent on rebuilding the armed forces, it was deemed to be unwise to invest as heavily in cannons as before. They had proven to be rather useless against the Poles. Time was also spent on exploring the east and building up fortifications.
In the end of October 1590 at long last the time had arrived. The Ottoman had made their peace both with Poland and Persia, and the Russians declared war. The Russian armed forces were not too eager to commit to battle in enemy-held provinces, so they just waited for the Ottoman while sending forward small numbers of men to siege various provinces. After a while the Ottomen armies arrived on the scene, various battles were fought in the areas comprising of southern most region of Russia and the former khanate provinces of the Ottoman.
As the armies of OE and Russia were slugging it out in the north, there was a single 25K army that went through Persian lands and snuck across the border deep into Ottoman held territory. They managed to burn their way into Egypt before they were finally pushed northward. This contingent of brave men lost their lives when they were cought by an numerically superiour OE army while they were ransacking the province of Syria.
While generally speaking the armies of Russia held the upper hand in most engagement against the OE. There came a time 4 years after the start of the war that things were looking very bleak indeed. The Russian armies had been ground to dust by the more numerous OE and were sent retreating all the way back to Samara. The Ottoman army, numbering in excess of 70K gave chase and besieged Volgograd and assaulted the army in Samara. The Ottoman were repulsed and so were subsequent assaults as well. The Czar responded by levying war taxes on the already burdened population and recruited and army of 45K strong in Muscovy. When at last this army though arrived on the scene it was unnecessary for the time being, an early winter had sent the Ottoman forces back to Astrakhan numbering just 33K.
After this things quieted down a bit, the Russians were never overly threatened by the Ottoman armies and neither were Ottoman overwhelmed by the Russians, a stalemate ensued. That is not to say that there were no battles fought, which would not be true. Rather that the increasing instability in the Ottoman realm ruled out any major offensive by them and the Russians were content to wait and play it safe with their manpower.
It is worth considering that in the 11 years or the 122 months that the conflict has been going, there have been 106 engagements between the two foes. Averaging at about 0.87 battles per. Month, which can hardly be called little when measuring the time the conflict has been going. It is furthermore interesting to note that while Lugansk, Astrakahn and Orenburg have at various times belonged to the Russians, no Russian provinces have ever been under the control of the Ottoman forces.
The Czar was relaxed, things were well in his realm and his armies were as prepared as they ever could be for an eventual war with OE. The Czar knew it would be hard fought so he was content with letting Persia and later Poland chip away at them. The Czar continued his expansion eastward, but due to a lack of a land-connection the gain was far less then it could be.
The Swedes were attacked early by the Poles and the Czar deemed it within our best interests to accept their summons. It was a bit of a distraction from OE, but as long as they were in this protracted war against Persia, it was alright. Russian armies were quickly marched from the Volga-basin to the border with Poland and as soon as the winter thawed, Russian soldiers were marching inside the Polish border. Most of the battles were conducted by the Russian and Poles on the Polish interior, it seemed the Swedes were contend to just siege their Baltic provinces and leave the fighting to Russians.
The Poles put up a fierce resistance and frustrated all attempts by the Russians to control their provinces for some time, but eventually the tides shifted and the Russian numerical superiority started to weigh in. Pskov fell to the Russians and then one province after another, surprisingly though the Poles were still hotly contesting dominion with the Russian armies. In the end, in march 1582 the Czar realized that due to overwhelming diplomatic pressure from other nations it was pointless to continue the struggle. So peace was concluded and Russia only got Pskov and Sweden only got Kurland, a paltry recompensation for all the soldiers lives that had been lost. Austria and OE were the ones most vociferous in their objections, OE even going as far as threatening intervention.
After the war time was spent on rebuilding the armed forces, it was deemed to be unwise to invest as heavily in cannons as before. They had proven to be rather useless against the Poles. Time was also spent on exploring the east and building up fortifications.
In the end of October 1590 at long last the time had arrived. The Ottoman had made their peace both with Poland and Persia, and the Russians declared war. The Russian armed forces were not too eager to commit to battle in enemy-held provinces, so they just waited for the Ottoman while sending forward small numbers of men to siege various provinces. After a while the Ottomen armies arrived on the scene, various battles were fought in the areas comprising of southern most region of Russia and the former khanate provinces of the Ottoman.
As the armies of OE and Russia were slugging it out in the north, there was a single 25K army that went through Persian lands and snuck across the border deep into Ottoman held territory. They managed to burn their way into Egypt before they were finally pushed northward. This contingent of brave men lost their lives when they were cought by an numerically superiour OE army while they were ransacking the province of Syria.
While generally speaking the armies of Russia held the upper hand in most engagement against the OE. There came a time 4 years after the start of the war that things were looking very bleak indeed. The Russian armies had been ground to dust by the more numerous OE and were sent retreating all the way back to Samara. The Ottoman army, numbering in excess of 70K gave chase and besieged Volgograd and assaulted the army in Samara. The Ottoman were repulsed and so were subsequent assaults as well. The Czar responded by levying war taxes on the already burdened population and recruited and army of 45K strong in Muscovy. When at last this army though arrived on the scene it was unnecessary for the time being, an early winter had sent the Ottoman forces back to Astrakhan numbering just 33K.
After this things quieted down a bit, the Russians were never overly threatened by the Ottoman armies and neither were Ottoman overwhelmed by the Russians, a stalemate ensued. That is not to say that there were no battles fought, which would not be true. Rather that the increasing instability in the Ottoman realm ruled out any major offensive by them and the Russians were content to wait and play it safe with their manpower.
It is worth considering that in the 11 years or the 122 months that the conflict has been going, there have been 106 engagements between the two foes. Averaging at about 0.87 battles per. Month, which can hardly be called little when measuring the time the conflict has been going. It is furthermore interesting to note that while Lugansk, Astrakahn and Orenburg have at various times belonged to the Russians, no Russian provinces have ever been under the control of the Ottoman forces.
Spain 1579-1601
It was the time of glory of Spain. In 1580 His majesty Felipe II became the King of Portugal. It took another 13 years before two glorius nation were merged in one powerful kingdom. Unification brough many benefits but it was also costed a lot. New tax collectors and governers had to be promoted. Army and navy had to be reorganised. But Spain is on a good way. New colonies had been founded, some provinces converted, new technologies invented and trade have been increased, but most of all – the path around the world has been explored. It was Sarmiento Gamboa who started expedition in 1579 from western Mexican coast and reached Japan, China, Malacca, Philipines and Australia not mentioning many other discovered lands. Now Spanish sailors have maps of almost whole world. Gamboa’s mission was very dangerous and sometime his men were struggling, but when he saw Hawaii islands he knew he is on a good way. He reached Asia (japaniese shore) in 1582. Thanks to him trade routes between Far East Centers of Trade and Spain have been estabilished. Trade is now one of most important sources of Spanish income. Moreover to secure Spanish trade in India, King sent an expedition to gain control under Ganghes.
Sarmiento Gamboa explores Malacca Strait
The only scratch on this beatiful picture was bankrupcy event. Spanish greed for gold finally caused sudden increase of inflation. Prices went up and many people lost their fortunes. People were angry and the mob started looking for someone responsible for the catastrophe. It took many years to regain stability in the country. The Morisques were accused of cheating and speculating on the market and also of acts of godless secret rituals. Nobody ever believed they became true catholics and they always were so rich so they were perfect group to be blamed. Thousands of Morisques had to leave Spain for good. Some of them didn’t want to leave their luxurious palaces and the rebelion began. The rebelion was ended by force by colonel Sanchez.
Spanish army on it's way to kill Morisque traitors.
The next challenge for Spanish King are the negotiations with our dear ally England about our borders in North America. Spanish King sees a lot of space for English to expand and is even ready to give our colony in Mobile as an act of good will. King is sorry that King of England missunderstood our offer and asked for Savannah and Tahalassee which are true catholic, iberian provinces and have no use for him.
The drums of distant ongoing war reached Spanish court. It is war between Russia and Ottoman Empire – two of European powers. Two kigdoms in bloody conflict which has no connection with Spain, but on the other hand Spain always supports (at least by prays) christians. Let the God save good christian people from pagan bloodthirsty mob !
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I ask for -1% inflation for my previuos AAR and -1% inflation for this one, so it gives edit -2% inflation for Spain !
As you stated that AAR's from previous sessions would still be eligable for reward until friday, and last sessions until this monday. I'll consider myself to be in line for two AAR rewards.
I'm guessing that the monetary rewards, which increase when into the 1600's, only apply when the sessions begin in the 1600's. So im expecting two +800 Ducat rewards, my treasury at the start of next session should be 1775. I have two lag-loans that are ending in Sep. 1604 which I would like to be cleared, I should have the finances to pay for it.
This leaves me with 1375 Ducats to play with. I can raise 100K cav. for 800 Ducats and 40K inf. for another 120 ducats, which leaves me with 400 ducats of emergency cash. I'm thinking that you and I Star Blade are just getting started.
I'm guessing that the monetary rewards, which increase when into the 1600's, only apply when the sessions begin in the 1600's. So im expecting two +800 Ducat rewards, my treasury at the start of next session should be 1775. I have two lag-loans that are ending in Sep. 1604 which I would like to be cleared, I should have the finances to pay for it.
This leaves me with 1375 Ducats to play with. I can raise 100K cav. for 800 Ducats and 40K inf. for another 120 ducats, which leaves me with 400 ducats of emergency cash. I'm thinking that you and I Star Blade are just getting started.
btw, you'd better invite someone to take control of Poland.
and remember this tuesday is the last session for Aryus
and remember this tuesday is the last session for Aryus
Javier (Pibe) said:
I'm sorry I wasn't asking for you to edit me armies, I was merely pointing out to Star Blade that he would be facing far more than 34K when he comes for a visit when the snow thawes.
Other than that it is nice to see this thread getting a little action, it was a bit tired.
Papa Chubby said:
yeah i noticed, sorry for the misunderstanding
yea, it seems an active thread, but we need players, we're few
Wow.... we are writing pretty fast at the moment writing past one-another even. Its a pity about France and Poland. I have been trying to talk with April and when I talked to him friday before time machine, I got a vibe from him that he could be persuaded to come back, but I haven't really been able to get in contact with him again.
We will have to advertise for a France after this session, but maybe we should advertise for a Poland tomorrow if we haven't been contacted by April. Its a pity really Poland is pretty powerfull.
writing past one-another even. Its a pity about France and Poland. I have been trying to talk with April and when I talked to him friday before time machine, I got a vibe from him that he could be persuaded to come back, but I haven't really been able to get in contact with him again.We will have to advertise for a France after this session, but maybe we should advertise for a Poland tomorrow if we haven't been contacted by April. Its a pity really Poland is pretty powerfull.
April(Asche) had some misunderstanding with Papa(sth about Novgorod) and he claims that due to some edits he had lost one prov and don't have anything in exchange. I don't know the case -and i don't wish to be involved in it...
Papa and Pibe - could You try to contact him on icq? Because he is angry about that and i don't wont to be involved because i don't know what happend. According to his version(i must say that he is convincing) he was robbed from one prov. Then he was attacked by Sweden and Russia and he lost more(if he had chance he could try to make a deal but when he was rubbed he lost his interest...). I know that even if he is 100% right - first task was to talk with GM(Pibe) than with others(Swe and Russia).
He said that he will try to contact Pibe, but i don't know if he would be willing to do that today.... so we must on his answear.(he has win 98 and says that running icq makes his comp crash, so he will open it only for a short period of time).
Hope that he will contact You soon...
Papa and Pibe - could You try to contact him on icq? Because he is angry about that and i don't wont to be involved because i don't know what happend. According to his version(i must say that he is convincing) he was robbed from one prov. Then he was attacked by Sweden and Russia and he lost more(if he had chance he could try to make a deal but when he was rubbed he lost his interest...). I know that even if he is 100% right - first task was to talk with GM(Pibe) than with others(Swe and Russia).
He said that he will try to contact Pibe, but i don't know if he would be willing to do that today.... so we must on his answear.(he has win 98 and says that running icq makes his comp crash, so he will open it only for a short period of time).
Hope that he will contact You soon...