Tuesday night game

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You got really unlucky with that civil war zag

Without it you'd have had a lot more income, and probably taken the incas as well . Not to mention had some trade to get income...

And yes, the late time makes me unable to play when the semester starts next week

 

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I'll take it as a man if you accept your 15% bankrupt in this campaign, Poland accepts orthodox tech and everyone respects their events, incluiding bankrupcies, I'll have no mercy as you didn't have with me!

 

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Swedens inflation is f***ed because he refuses to give up even one prov and mints constantly, probably to by expensive mercs since he got 9 WE and has a hard time to raise troops...

If something is done to lower Swedens inflation, Russia should get compensated aswell - maybe by getting savolaks and a small inflation reduction, maybe by ending the other wars

My inflation is not for war with Russia, only lags... I fought 10 years with brave Danes. I dont took loans.. and don't had any news about it (even automatic). Bankrupty and low stab is not my fault
I don't ask about reduction my inflation but then game have no sense.
But I don't have reason to give Savolaks to Russia... I have all Prov's... If he wants Savolaks, he MUST WIN THIS F****** WAR
Thanks TT for crushing rebels

 

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Edits:

-remove China from the book
-fix Sweden, give lands to Muscowy and a short deflation in muscowy


this is what i found:

name = "-zag- (Spain) :they broke free during the civil war"
name = "Einherjar (France) :.oh!"
name = "November 1, 1524 : Sweden went bankrupt!"
name = "November 4, 1524 : Our merchants failed to expand our trade in Flandern."
name = "Admiral TT (England) :guys, we end in 20mins"

1st one;

name = "Einherjar (France) :heh poland"
name = "Einherjar (France) :who dowed?"
name = "April (Poland) :I must help my ally "
name = "February 28, 1525 : Algiers entered a Military Alliance with Ottoman Empire, Aden and Astrakhan."
name = "February 28, 1525 : Algiers joined the war on the same side as Ottoman Empire, Aden and Astrakhan in their war "
name = "against Persia."
name = "DrAnNoR (Muscowy) :.or u just wp me.."
name = "Einherjar (France) :"
name = "Admiral TT (England) :go poland!"
name = "April (Poland) :Lithuania declare war !"
name = "March 16, 1525 : Sweden went bankrupt!"
name = "DrAnNoR (Muscowy) :like austria did 5 times on you.."
name = "Pibe (Austria) :yea =p"

2nd one! I smell loan exploit here, note the date, 4 months and Sweden went bankrupt, unbelievable!

name = "Pibe (Austria) :crap! Bohemia rejected"
name = "Admiral TT (England) :yes"
name = "Admiral TT (England) :lol"
name = "Pibe (Austria) :=/"
name = "Pibe (Austria) :bad luck"
name = "Admiral TT (England) :I'm guessin no"
name = "Einherjar (France) :u shouls split with poland "
name = "November 3, 1526 : Excellent Minister happened to us."
name = "Admiral TT (England) :ask for cash"
name = "December 1, 1526 : Sweden went bankrupt!"

and 3rd!!!

 

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My inflation is not for war with Russia, only lags... I fought 10 years with brave Danes. I dont took loans.. and don't had any news about it (even automatic). Bankrupty and low stab is not my fault
I don't ask about reduction my inflation but then game have no sense.
But I don't have reason to give Savolaks to Russia... I have all Prov's... If he wants Savolaks, he MUST WIN THIS F****** WAR
Thanks TT for crushing rebels

you used that money to combat and weaken Muscowy. I think you've lost this war. you choose, losing what Muscowy asks, can be 5 provinces at maximum or you just take the inflation. I'd give 5 provinces to have 6,5% inflation again.

3 bankrupts in 2 years, you're a big shot :rofl:

 

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Justice???

you used that money to combat and weaken Muscowy. I think you've lost this war. you choose, losing what Muscowy asks, can be 5 provinces at maximum or you just take the inflation. I'd give 5 provinces to have 6,5% inflation again.

3 bankrupts in 2 years, you're a big shot :rofl:

First of all remember that fighting with lags is awful(if i had such lags i wouldn’t be able to assault castles(i did it very often!!) and lose much more time on conquering my enemies....

So it is obvious that i disagree with Pibe - lags do a lot of harm(we lose soldiers and can't manage armies properly...).

So for only those lags( Ghost Dog had them all the time - remember that!!!) i propose to divide his inflation by 2 and leave him with only 1/2 inflation.

And one more thing. I disagree to give anyone anything for nothing! So i think that Moscow shouldn't get anything from Sweden - only due to peace treaty they sign...

And to be justice to Moscow - he had some lags too so he can get the same bonus as Sweden(1/2 inflation but in his case it wouldn't be much). I think it is justice to all...

Star Blade

 

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No

don't insult my hosting or you'll regret, Star he had no lag after rehosting.

2 options, inflation (no edits at all) or 5 provinces to Moscowy. you take it or you leave it. it's the decision of Sweden. ohh by the way, if we consider a 0.25% deflation, 36,5 would only disappear in 146 years.

6,5% can disappear in 26 years, wow, such a difference need a reflexion?

 

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Help newbie

Edits:

-remove China from the book
-fix Sweden, give lands to Muscowy and a short deflation in muscowy


this is what i found:

name = "November 1, 1524 : Sweden went bankrupt!"
1st one;

name = "March 16, 1525 : Sweden went bankrupt!"

2nd one! I smell loan exploit here, note the date, 4 months and Sweden went bankrupt, unbelievable!

name = "December 1, 1526 : Sweden went bankrupt!"

and 3rd!!!

This situation means that Sweden player is truly newbie. He built soldiers for all cash he gets from loans and he is bankrupt after that( and he can take only 1-2 loans because he has poor stability....), because he don't have enough cash to maintain those soldiers. So i think that he needs help because i don't think that with so shitty inflation and so weak economy anyone was willing to play. So me proposal to Sweden is:
1)1/2 inflation as i wrote above
2)fast peace resolution with Moscow(forced by us - more experienced players - remember about rule: balance of power....)
3) give Sweden some instructions how to manage their own country(because he thinks that he don't take loans but he take them(maybe he has in his options that he don't see when he takes loans!!!)). - this point is most important one i think..
4)if Sweden ever do the same thing again - no help! (it is only one gift of good will from others players...)

Star Blade

 

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This situation means that Sweden player is truly newbie. He built soldiers for all cash he gets from loans and he is bankrupt after that( and he can take only 1-2 loans because he has poor stability....), because he don't have enough cash to maintain those soldiers. So i think that he needs help because i don't think that with so shitty inflation and so weak economy anyone was willing to play. So me proposal to Sweden is:
1)1/2 inflation as i wrote above
2)fast peace resolution with Moscow(forced by us - more experienced players - remember about rule: balance of power....)
3) give Sweden some instructions how to manage their own country(because he thinks that he don't take loans but he take them(maybe he has in his options that he don't see when he takes loans!!!)). - this point is most important one i think..
4)if Sweden ever do the same thing again - no help! (it is only one gift of good will from others players...)

Star Blade

1) that's in the end a punishment, 18,3% inflation is a lot in 1528.

2) huh? which rule?

3)well, then support my idea, he's lost a war, 5-3 provinces to Muscowy and a deflation of 30% for Sweden.

4)you're "walking contradition" here , hell, i love that song of Green Day

 

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Ein, update the fisrt post (player list and rules: the part MA aren't permited in a cassus belli issue)

 

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No

don't insult my hosting or you'll regret, Star Blade he had no lag after rehosting.

2 options, inflation (no edits at all) or 5 provinces to Moscowy. you take it or you leave it. it's the decision of Sweden. ohh by the way, if we consider a 0.25% deflation, 36,5 would only disappear in 146 years.

6,5% can disappear in 26 years, wow, such a difference need a reflexion?

I think that You shouldn't be so indulgence to Sweden. He is newbie as we all that know.... My purpose is not to be rude to anyone - i wish that all of us(those who have better situation and those who aren't so good) have great fun from this game(if it is possible..... ).

Of course it doesn't mean that i will give anything for nothing... The purpose of that game is to make those newbie players more experienced - not killed after 2 sessions....

So be more reasonable with Your peace agreement Pibe and first of all: talk to both mostly interested about this peace treaty(!): Sweden and Moscow. Than give Your proposal on the forum! Because it looks like You were a GM or a Emperor of this game(i appreciate Your hosting! – remember that).....

Star Blade

 

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are you comparing 5-3 provinces with 30% inflation? you're understimating the inflation monster

let Sweden Decide =)

 

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be more reasonable with Your peace agreement Pibe and first of all: talk to both mostly interested about this peace treaty(!): Sweden and Moscow. Than give Your proposal on the forum! Because it looks like You were a GM or a Emperor of this game(i appreciate Your hosting! – remember that).....

Star Blade

I'm just mad at Bohemia! bitches

 

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btw, Russia, don't feel pressured at all, don't give up what's rightfully yours, if you want to give Sweden a deflation for more than 3 provinces you can, it's your choice, but they seem to be enemies for a long time, so take your chance if Sweden chooses a deflation by edit in exchange of some provinces.

 

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Aryus: Spains inflation is rather low atm cause the regent is terrified of
inflation....
But I can always put it skyhigh if u promise to edit it for me....

I was referring to the inflation Spain gets by events not to your current inflation.

Regarding the question of inflation:
Sweden is certainly not playable with those conditions so some modification is necessary.
On the other hand, I disagree with Pibe: if Russia gains all Finland, it will become too powerful and negatively affect Poland. (After all, it's not Poland's fault that Sweden went bankrupt)

So I propose the following:

-Sweden releases denmark.
-Sweden inflation totally removed.
-Russia gains Savolaks only.

Sweden may take Denmark, this time more gradually (not in one war) so that it doesn't get too much war exhaustion and bankruptcies.
This while being fair for both Russia and Poland allows Sweden to have a second chance.

This is my proposal, I think Sweden should also make some proposals.

 

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what's the point in that?! I'd give Finland instead of Denmark away

 

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Because as I said giving Finland away means Russia'll become undeservedly too strong, negatively affecting Poland.

 

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Sweden need sth more

So I propose the following:

-Sweden releases denmark.
-Sweden inflation totally removed.
-Russia gains Savolaks only.

Sweden may take Denmark, this time more gradually (not in one war) so that it doesn't get too much war exhaustion and bankruptcies.
This while being fair for both Russia and Poland allows Sweden to have a second chance.

This is my proposal, I think Sweden should also make some proposals.

I have talked to Aryus and we have agreed to give sth more to Sweden. First of all Sweden will be weak(the same weak as in the beginning!!!) so it needs some back up after they release Denies.

My proposal was to give Sweden +1 tech in infrastructure and trade and no cash at all. Decrease the inflation to maybe 0-10%(we can talk about it).

And Sweden need some time to regain its powers - so maybe 10 years peace with other humans unless Sweden start war with some human country.

And to be fair to all others - it is one time "gift" and there will be no more "gifts" so if You don't wish to end the same, ask someone who is more experienced what to do. I don't wish to be rude - please look for advice if You have problems or try to be more friendly to Your neighbor human countries...both ways can work…

Star Blade

 

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When can i play...

It is hard to say but i think that every day until 26 of September( i don't have my studies plan made until now because i don't know which subjects i will get - specific of my school...). But i prefer every hour after 19 CET or sometimes 20 CET(because in work day i eat dinner after 18 CET or even 19 CET). And i must know about sessions 2 days before....

To others: Please write when You can and I wish that all messages will be as concise as mine because we have on forum to much messages which could and should be posted on icq rather than on this forum...

Star Blade

 

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I agree with Star Blade and Ein. This is the best way to have the Swedish situation resolved. I think we should add one more condition. If he does this again, we boot him out of Sweden.