Tuesday game - Defeat Before Dismemberment

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BTW, I have picked Venice to play. I already set my mind to it after I confirmed the switch with BiB and did some fresh diplomacy.

So, Daniel will play England after it's subbed next week (if it will still be necessary that is)

 

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Have installed the mod and the fix succesfully.

Have studied the map. Certain anomalies here.

1. Russia apparently neglected colonising Siberia early on and as a result lost East Siberia to the OE.

2. OE is present not only in East Siberia but also in central Africa. Interesting. How did they get there?

3. SPA has blocked English expansion into the midwest by making TPs along the Mississippi river. Thereby displaying an excellent ability in the art of acquiring enemies without making any significant effort.

4. Venice impresses with its wealth and expansion. It clearly fared well after its excellently played first session.

5. Austria owns the COT in East Africa! Amazing. I am impressed! Well, unless it was simply given to them.

6. The world out there is large!

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All nations are wellcome to contact me on ICQ for diplomatic relations talks. As I have my ICQ in my sig you can easily do that. It is recommendable that the otherwise most excellent post 1 in this thread is updated with
1. The correct roster
2. The ICQ numbers of all perms
3. The correction of the spelling of the definite article to the word "ROSTER"

 

[Tonioz]

well, Daniel, i came to conclusion that this large area colonization is very bad for dynamic game and frequent european wars

 

[Rinak]

1. Russia apparently neglected colonising Siberia early on and as a result lost East Siberia to the OE.

2. OE is present not only in East Siberia but also in central Africa. Interesting. How did they get there?

Russia claimed Siberia wasn't worth it, so the OE decided Russia didn't need Astrakhan or the surrounding area, and accidentally picked up half of Siberia along the way (whoops on the stab hit peace from Russia). It looks like more will be taken next session, what with the current war. The OE has finished with all the annoying the revolts russia tried taking advantage of, and is about to crush Russia with army after army. Who cares how many die.

Well, Central Africa happened because I had nothing else to do. BB was high, I had a conquistador, Siberia had already been explored, it was the only area I could reach at the time. So it got colonised until Russia decided it didn't want Siberia back after. Siberia will eventually be a Turkish area in its full if Russia keeps on attacking like this.

 

[Ampoliros]

well, Daniel, i came to conclusion that this large area colonization is very bad for dynamic game and frequent european wars

How do you come to this conclusion, may I ask?

To me it rather seems that the scale of the conflicts simply has gotten bigger. Sadly the greater ammount of colonizable areas has not produced the desired effect of more colonial powers per se.

 

[Rinak]

How do you come to this conclusion, may I ask?

To me it rather seems that the scale of the conflicts simply has gotten bigger. Sadly the greater ammount of colonizable areas has not produced the desired effect of more colonial powers per se.

One big problem is this 1419 scenario had a lot of pre-formed countries in the colonial areas, and whoever got to an area early tended to pick them all off, while colonising the free provinces, and so prevent other countries from taking much. The additional problem of some countries fencing off large areas hasn't helped. In the AoD scenario games I'm in, we have a fair number of early colonial powers, although I have noticed having any of the countries in sub-saharan africa or the americas is a bad idea. They will get annexed very early on, by whoever gets to the area first, and end up taking most of the good land, and they are then freed up to colonise other areas and so reduce the opportunities even more.

 

[Ampoliros]

One big problem is this 1419 scenario had a lot of pre-formed countries in the colonial areas, and whoever got to an area early tended to pick them all off, while colonising the free provinces, and so prevent other countries from taking much. The additional problem of some countries fencing off large areas hasn't helped. In the AoD scenario games I'm in, we have a fair number of early colonial powers, although I have noticed having any of the countries in sub-saharan africa or the americas is a bad idea. They will get annexed very early on, by whoever gets to the area first, and end up taking most of the good land, and they are then freed up to colonise other areas and so reduce the opportunities even more.

Aye, I quite agree with you there. Personaly, I find the greedy expansionism of Spain for example quite bad for the entire campaign. Had Spain concentrated on her historical sphere´s (which - in fact - Spain has still not completely colonised) it would have been much better for the campaign as well as for Spain.
For, the only reason it has been spared till now is that it is so weak that nobody can bring it on himself to attack.

Really, one´s plans should always be in sync with one´s means and power. Spain is clearly out of sync and we shall see if England & Sweden will tolerate this forever.

 

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Aye, I quite agree with you there. Personaly, I find the greedy expansionism of Spain for example quite bad for the entire campaign. Had Spain concentrated on her historical sphere´s (which - in fact - Spain has still not completely colonised) it would have been much better for the campaign as well as for Spain.
For, the only reason it has been spared till now is that it is so weak that nobody can bring it on himself to attack.

Apart from me, and I got shouted at for being evil

 

[Ampoliros]

Apart from me, and I got shouted at for being evil

Ah, but it wasn´t you, Bob, it was Kleiger!

 

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well, Daniel, i came to conclusion that this large area colonization is very bad for dynamic game and frequent european wars

Indeed, thus a perfect map for me

 

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well, Daniel, i came to conclusion that this large area colonization is very bad for dynamic game and frequent european wars

True for at least a century in this campaign, I have to say. But it looks like the peaceful times are now over, since the attractive spots are taken and people get greedy

 

[Tonioz]

How do you come to this conclusion, may I ask?

To me it rather seems that the scale of the conflicts simply has gotten bigger. Sadly the greater ammount of colonizable areas has not produced the desired effect of more colonial powers per se.

playing couple of AOD games, pre-1700 times were very boring. At both this games i spent a lot of time on colonizing being land=10 nation.

 

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All nations are wellcome to contact me on ICQ for diplomatic relations talks. As I have my ICQ in my sig you can easily do that. It is recommendable that the otherwise most excellent post 1 in this thread is updated with
1. The correct roster
2. The ICQ numbers of all perms
3. The correction of the spelling of the definite article to the word "ROSTER"

Updated now:

Country: 		Player:			ICQ
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Austria			Duke of Austria 	199-328-083
Brandenburg		Dr. BoB			278-543-055	
England			Daniel A.		279-304-318
France			Ampoliros		337-767-705
The Netherlands		Labalag			190-282-991
The Ottoman Empire	Rinak			205-941-054
Portugal		Numius			64-030-926
Russia			Fredrik82		83-278-192
Spain			Alistus			286-649-071		
Sweden			Emp. Alexius		201-725-410
Venice			FAL			202-402-373

 

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Daniel,

Don't forget you can write an AAR before the session for rewards here

At which each new perm, you are allowed to write a Pre-AAR to get a cookie

EDIT: also, England was ghosted for the last few years, so please check if you missed any historical events.

 

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I can write an AfterActionReport before the Action takes place? That is very interesting and nice

I am always on the lookout for benefits for my nation and since I as usual intend to inflate a lot I will try and write one. Indeed, half of what I wrote since I got back is, at least for me, AAR material.

 

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I can write an AfterActionReport before the Action takes place? That is very interesting and nice

It's called a BAR (Before Action Report). For example: New eminence grisé arrives, gives report to the King...

 

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As much of what I wrote in my earlierp post was excellent material for a BAR I will take the liberty of putting that into my BAR.

 

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I kindly ask for an EDIT:
Province of Erie to BB.
province of Puerto Rico to France.

I won't do province swaps per edit in this game, you need to do it in-game.

 

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OK, understood

 

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Good news guys. I got another player to play this bridge match. First things first and that means EU. After all, one plays MP only 4 days a week.