TRP 1.01 final (Oct2013)

[Hessler]

Hey Ober,
if i remember correctly you wanted to post you review on youtube again.
If i was to harsh a few days ago concerning the mirror site and the publishing of this video, please take my apologize.
Cheers
Hessler

 

[DerStudti]

It is pretty easy indeed, because ENG has very few units on it's homeland, most are in north africa.
The only challenge is to get on the island in the first place.
I liked north africa though, it was a good challenge and my german units just barely could turn the tide.

Nice to hear about North Africa. However, it's a sad choice to make: Tell the AI to send units to Egypt or tell it to keep them at home for safety? We chose the first option and placed our hopes in the Royal Navy.

P.S.: I read in a comment of yours (or rommels or hesslers, don't remember) that you still could not bring the US to invade Europe, thats a real bummer.
I was looking foreward to playing the SU and not doing all the work alone this time...

Please don't get me wrong: We told the US AI to invade and it indeed did several times in our test games, but most of the time, it decided to help ENG against JAP in Burma or Malaya. It's hard to tell an AI to act on several theatres at the same time. Terribly many things can and will go wrong, especially if the target is very far away from the staging provinces.

 

[Ivan Bajlo]

Nice to hear about North Africa. However, it's a sad choice to make: Tell the AI to send units to Egypt or tell it to keep them at home for safety? We chose the first option and placed our hopes in the Royal Navy.

So if I chose to wait as Italy until 1940 before joining I'll just see more British divisions in Africa?

BTW isn't number of beaches little too much? As Italy or UK you need half of the army just to guard everything.

Please don't get me wrong: We told the US AI to invade and it indeed did several times in our test games, but most of the time, it decided to help ENG against JAP in Burma or Malaya. It's hard to tell an AI to act on several theatres at the same time. Terribly many things can and will go wrong, especially if the target is very far away from the staging provinces.

Yep, same problem in vanilla DH, seems only way to play proper game is for player to play USA - if he has lot of spare time for clicking.

 

[Bodhisattvas]

Playing as USA I saw a nice AI move recently. While the battle of Tobruk was still on, several italian divisions landed in Alexandria (I'll guess there was no garrison). After several weeks Italy still holds Alexandria and some provinces to the south and the main part of the UK army is trapped in a large strip at the north african coast. The AI probably won't ever be able to launch D-Day or some large scale operations in the pacifics, but it's nice to see that the AI is netherless able to surprise someone. Has been a long way since HOI2

 

[unmerged(178919)]

Hi, I'm playing a game with the SU now.
I got a problem, on the 8th of July 1937 (right after the "grosse Säuberung" event, the one where stalin kills all those officers)
the need for modernization jumped from 1700 IC to 5200 IC for no apparent reason. There was no new technology invented or anything that would explain this.
I'm moderizing:
122 Division (mostly infantry)
85 brigades (mostly artillery)

Also I would like to mention that (playing with germany earlier) I thought that bombers were kinda underpowerd, they weren't a big help to the ground troops. (Note that I was only using "Zerrüttung" (interdiction)).


P.S.: I really wish that the line break would work better on this forum...

 

[DerStudti]

So if I chose to wait as Italy until 1940 before joining I'll just see more British divisions in Africa?

*g*

BTW isn't number of beaches little too much? As Italy or UK you need half of the army just to guard everything.

That's one question that i'll kindly leave for Hessler to answer.

Hi, I'm playing a game with the SU now.
I got a problem, on the 8th of July 1937 (right after the "grosse Säuberung" event, the one where stalin kills all those officers)
the need for modernization jumped from 1700 IC to 5200 IC for no apparent reason. There was no new technology invented or anything that would explain this.

That's one little dirty trick i implemented to keep a human SOV from modernizing its army until the beginning of Barbarossa if GER is AI controlled: Look at your head of government (Stalin)...
You'll get back the original one after some days of war against GER.

Ahhhh...i'm a really mean guy from time to time...

Also I would like to mention that (playing with germany earlier) I thought that bombers were kinda underpowerd, they weren't a big help to the ground troops. (Note that I was only using "Zerrüttung" (interdiction)).

Noted. Reports have been ambivalent on this issue so far.

 

[Lord Rommel]

Human SOV players get a new "head of government" after the great purge - a new "Iosef Stalin"
On of his effects; You have higher modernization costs.

Rommel, TRP.

Arg... Studti was faster.

 

[Hessler]

BTW isn't number of beaches little too much? As Italy or UK you need half of the army just to guard everything.

Well ...
first of all take my apologizes that i did not review every possible beach province on the whole world personally ;-)

Seriously,
when i adapted TRP to the new map, i used the old TRP province.csv as base. So there are as much beaches as in previous TRP versions too.
Since we have some more provinces on the DH map than on the old HoI2 map, there might be some beaches more now.
But iirc i even reduced the number of beaches on the north african coast due to gameplay reasons ...

So from a pure conversion point of view the number of beaches is absolutly correct.

Does this answer your question ?

 

[unmerged(178919)]

That's one little dirty trick i implemented to keep a human SOV from modernizing its army until the beginning of Barbarossa if GER is AI controlled: Look at your head of government (Stalin)...
You'll get back the original one after some days of war against GER.

Ahhhh...i'm a really mean guy from time to time...

You little devil! But it does make sense...

Another question: (there are always more questions)
It is June 1940 and Germany seems to have a much higher Base IC than I had when I was playing Germany.
They got 626/396 IC. That must be 100 to 150 base ic more than I had at that time. What's up with that?
I'm playing on normal.

 

[DerStudti]

You little devil! But it does make sense...

Another question: (there are always more questions)
It is June 1940 and Germany seems to have a much higher Base IC than I had when I was playing Germany.
They got 626/396 IC. That must be 100 to 150 base ic more than I had at that time. What's up with that?
I'm playing on normal.

As far as i can remember, we set our GER AI to a very expansionist IC buildup even until the beginning of 1939. Moreover, the AI will get the ships within the production queue at the very start at just 10% of their normal costs since an AI is unable to select what of them to build early, what of them to postpone and what of them to delete. This will free up some IC that may be used for new factories. I don't recall exactly if a GER AI also gets its peace penalty removed earlier than a human player does, but this would make for an additional amount of 10% IC efficiency over a few years.

 

[alan12]

Hi , thx for this wonderfull mod
I have just a problem why with germany in september 39 Belgium and luxembourg dow me ?
I dow poland the 30 august 39 event but 1 week after belgium and luxembour dow me i dont understand why

 

[DerStudti]

Hi , thx for this wonderfull mod

Thx

I have just a problem why with germany in september 39 Belgium and luxembourg dow me ?
I dow poland the 30 august 39 event but 1 week after belgium and luxembour dow me i dont understand why

Strange. Did you take any ahistoric (diplomatic) steps? Did something all around the world go wrong before?

 

[alan12]

i Have just stop naval German English alliance in 37 i have respect all the event i dont understand

 

[Blecky]

Don´t know if somebody mentioned it already, but there are four "Unknown String Wanted" in the options\messages menue (the last two entries in "Diplomatic" and two in "Battles and Military").

 

[DerStudti]

i Have just stop naval German English alliance in 37 i have respect all the event i dont understand

Could you please upload your savegame?

Don´t know if somebody mentioned it already, but there are four "Unknown String Wanted" in the options\messages menue (the last two entries in "Diplomatic" and two in "Battles and Military").

Thx. Maybe DH 1.03 introduced these entries.

 

[alan12]

I have restart a new party and im in january 39 and belgium is allied with Uk , france ect... its the problem

My save :

http://uploaded.net/file/9nsf97b8

 

[alan12]

Ok i see the problem

Its in event decision

look that :

#########################################################################
# Was 852000 - Belgium Neutrality (by Generalisimo)
#########################################################################
event = { #5800001
id = 3115002
random = no
country = BEL

trigger = {
event = 3136001 # Reoccupation of the Rhineland
NOT = {
OR = {
war = { country = ENG country = GER }
atwar = GER
war = { country = ENG country = SOV }
atwar = yes
war = { country = BEL country = GER }
war = { country = BEL country = SOV }
}
}
}

name = EVT_3115002_NAME # Belgium declares its neutrality
desc = EVT_3115002_DESC
style = 0

date = { day = 1 month = october year = 1936 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1947 }

action_a = {
name = ACTIONNAME3115002A # Remain strictly neutral; leave the Allies
ai_chance = 99
command = { type = dissent value = -3 }
command = { type = leave_alliance }
}

action_b = {
name = ACTIONNAME3115002B # Remain in the Allies
ai_chance = 1
command = { type = dissent value = 25 }

1947 i think its not normal lol

 

[djconklin]

>Darkest Hour 1.03 RC3 (DH Full - Checksum: BYGX)

I have the right checksum, so it appears to have installed correctly. But I thought that TRP didn't cover WW1 (which I have available)?

 

[Blecky]

>Darkest Hour 1.03 RC3 (DH Full - Checksum: BYGX)

I have the right checksum, so it appears to have installed correctly. But I thought that TRP didn't cover WW1 (which I have available)?

Did you extract the zip-file into the "mods" folder? You don´t have to create a TRP folder on your own and you don´t need to copy DH Full into that folder. If installed correctly only the 1936 scenario should be available.

 

[djconklin]

Originally Posted by djconklin
>Darkest Hour 1.03 RC3 (DH Full - Checksum: BYGX)

I have the right checksum, so it appears to have installed correctly. But I thought that TRP didn't cover WW1 (which I have available)?

Did you extract the zip-file into the "mods" folder? You don´t have to create a TRP folder on your own and you don´t need to copy DH Full into that folder. If installed correctly only the 1936 scenario should be available.

I assumed that since it says "DH Full" that meant I had to install it into the file folder--otherwise which one is it running?