Trophy system questions.

[Crecer13]

I have two questions about trophies:

- First: let's say I encirclement a large group of enemy divisions. Encirclement and destroyed. All the equipment that these divisions had - weapons, guns, trucks, tanks, etc., just take it and poof ... disappear? That is, I get only half of what the country had in stock when it surrendered? Why can't I decide how many weapons to give the country when creating a puppet and take the rest for myself.

- Second: let's say I play for the USSR, a country that has a very bad fleet and, in general, its research slots go to more needed land research. And I wanted to capture Japan to capture his large fleet. After defeating Japan, his fleet just poof ... disappeared. I can’t capture the fleet, I can’t give when creating a puppet (if I want) part of the fleet and take the rest for myself. Will the trophy system be changed? Especially Fleet Trophies.

 

[fallgelb22061940]

I believe never, since Paradox was clear about POWs

 

[Crecer13]

I believe never, since Paradox was clear about POWs

Okay. I can understand about prisoners of war. Although the trophy system can be done simply with winning an area and retreating the enemy, just a very small percentage (And make a commander trait - a trophy collector that increases the percentage). But the Fleet mechanic. The USSR really wanted Italian battleships, a German aircraft carrier. But due to political differences, he did not receive them. There is no boarding here, it's just the capture of the fleet after surrender, as well as weapons and other equipment.

 

[fallgelb22061940]

I think it also counts, since it is similar

 

[Crecer13]

I think it also counts, since it is similar

In my opinion, there is something wrong here. We don't mind that tanks are part of my trophy. I do not capture tanks with the crew. Just like I will not take the ship with its full crew.

Spoiler

As a result of the division of the remnants of the Kriegsmarine, the Soviet Union received:

1 cruiser,
10 destroyers,
10 submarines,
44 minesweepers,
30 torpedo boats.

As a result of the division of the ships of the Imperial Japanese Navy that survived the war, the Soviet Union received:

6 destroyers,
1 torpedo-boat,
17 escort ships,
2 small minelayers,
1 submarine hunter,
1 minesweeper,
3 small auxiliary minesweepers.

From the composition of the Italian Naval Forces, the Soviet Union got:

1 battleship,
1 cruiser,
2 destroyers,
3 dtorpedo-boat,
2 submarines,
11 different boats.

From the Romanian Navy, the Soviet Union got:

4 destroyers,
5 monitors,
3 submarines,
4 midget submarines,
2 patrol boats,
1 minelayer,
4 minesweepers.
In addition, some auxiliary vessels were transferred.

Yes, the ships and vessels received by the Soviet Union as reparations, in the overwhelming majority, had an outdated design, with worn out weapons, hulls and mechanisms and were not provided with spare parts and ammunition. Therefore, most of the trophies were not entered into the combat composition of the fleet, and the rest did not serve for long. But this does not mean that the USSR captured them as a pirate by boarding.

 

[Vlad123]

In my opinion, there is something wrong here. We don't mind that tanks are part of my trophy. I do not capture tanks with the crew. Just like I will not take the ship with its full crew.

Spoiler

As a result of the division of the remnants of the Kriegsmarine, the Soviet Union received:

1 cruiser,
10 destroyers,
10 submarines,
44 minesweepers,
30 torpedo boats.

As a result of the division of the ships of the Imperial Japanese Navy that survived the war, the Soviet Union received:

6 destroyers,
1 torpedo-boat,
17 escort ships,
2 small minelayers,
1 submarine hunter,
1 minesweeper,
3 small auxiliary minesweepers.

From the composition of the Italian Naval Forces, the Soviet Union got:

1 battleship,
1 cruiser,
2 destroyers,
3 dtorpedo-boat,
2 submarines,
11 different boats.

From the Romanian Navy, the Soviet Union got:

4 destroyers,
5 monitors,
3 submarines,
4 midget submarines,
2 patrol boats,
1 minelayer,
4 minesweepers.
In addition, some auxiliary vessels were transferred.

Yes, the ships and vessels received by the Soviet Union as reparations, in the overwhelming majority, had an outdated design, with worn out weapons, hulls and mechanisms and were not provided with spare parts and ammunition. Therefore, most of the trophies were not entered into the combat composition of the fleet, and the rest did not serve for long. But this does not mean that the USSR captured them as a pirate by boarding.

but they captured:
small weapons
artillery
tanks
and this from all sides!
The Germans had a lot of French, Italian, Polish, Czechoslovakian, Soviet etc tanks captured and reused! Why do I have to put a support division in order to achieve this !?