Troop Transport

[unmerged(7996)]

Does anyone know if the method of loading/unloading troops for transport via ship will change from EUII?

Watching 1 ship stop a fleet of 60 from unloading troops as they almost all on the beach...and then drag the entire fleet into a month long sea combat was just plain silly in EUII. That it occassionally happened multiple times in the same assualt resulted me getting pretty frustrated sometimes. It once took me over a year to land Scottish soldiers in Naples. I had a fleet of 50 warships and Naples had 11 galleys. By the end of it, Naples had 0 ships, I was down to 20 (from attrition not combat), and I was only able to put 18K on the beach who were routed by the forces Naples had conscripted as I sat off their coast for a year.

I hope this has changed.

 

[Smiffus]

You certainly will not see galleys disturbing your amphibious assaults in HoI...

 

[unmerged(7996)]

Not quite the answer I was looking for. Thanks for the laugh.

 

[unmerged(8622)]

also, Italy is a united country too
-SS

 

[unmerged(9422)]

And Scotland won't be in it. So your grand Scottish fleet won't sink.

And sorry.. Unfortunately, I have no idea about the troops transports...

It will probably be more "realistic" than EUII though.


Meiji-Tenno

 

[King]

Originally posted by Meiji-Tenno
And Scotland won't be in it. So your grand Scottish fleet won't sink.

And sorry.. Unfortunately, I have no idea about the troops transports...

It will probably be more "realistic" than EUII though.


Meiji-Tenno

Don't worry I am bombarding Parado with E-Mails everyday till Scotland is in it. I assure that by sheer attrition the proud Kingdom of Scotland will rise again. Help me fight the good fight, E-Mail Paradox at put_Soctland_in_HOI@Paradoxplaza.com . You see I had my first success, they have given me a seperate E-Mail address to send my complaints to.

 

[unmerged(9422)]

Originally posted by King


Don't worry I am bombarding Parado with E-Mails everyday till Scotland is in it. I assure that by sheer attrition the proud Kingdom of Scotland will rise again. Help me fight the good fight, E-Mail Paradox at put_Soctland_in_HOI@Paradoxplaza.com . You see I had my first success, they have given me a seperate E-Mail address to send my complaints to.

Are you serious?

Perhaps Scotland could be made a revolter too. You could do something as Britain that would annoy the Scots. Scotland joins Germany and Ireland and invade Britain. Now, Newfoundland is conquered as a base, and the invasion of North America begins.

 

[jacob-Lundgren]

lol sorry i cant support adding scotland to the game. though i am all for making a demo available early for those who are die-hard fans here

on a side note i think the eu2 version of landings like overlord would be 300 warships and 50 transports vs 15 galleys. ie the massed warships wont even be slowed a bit as the battle will just end instanly with the galleys losing

 

[King]

Originally posted by Meiji-Tenno


Are you serious?

In a word no.

Originally posted by Meiji-Tenno

Perhaps Scotland could be made a revolter too. You could do something as Britain that would annoy the Scots. Scotland joins Germany and Ireland and invade Britain. Now, Newfoundland is conquered as a base, and the invasion of North America begins.

In the context of the period a Scottish revolter is totally unhistorical. At Dunkirk a Highland Solidier was overheard remarking "If England surrenders this will be a long war". At the time Scotland was staunchly unionist and the Tory party held a commanding majority in Scotland (which would only disapear in the 60's). A total of one Scottish Nationalist MP was elected during the war and that was only when disatisifaction at Chuchill's government was at it's hight (he lost his seat in 1945). Even now I would say there would be no Scotitsh revolter (70% of the people voted for the union at the last election).

However your plan sounds fun.

 

[unmerged(9422)]

Originally posted by King


In a word no.

I see. I am very disappointed in you.

In the context of the period a Scottish revolter is totally unhistorical. At Dunkirk a Highland Solidier was overheard remarking "If England surrenders this will be a long war". At the time Scotland was staunchly unionist and the Tory party held a commanding majority in Scotland (which would only disapear in the 60's). A total of one Scottish Nationalist MP was elected during the war and that was only when disatisifaction at Chuchill's government was at it's hight (he lost his seat in 1945). Even now I would say there would be no Scotitsh revolter (70% of the people voted for the union at the last election).

However your plan sounds fun.

Scenario editor time~~~!

Go Scotland!

I can see it now..


Event

Title: War of Independence
Date: December 25, 1940 (Merry Christmas )

Description: We will gain our independence from those British scumbags! They will get what the deserve! Overrun the lowlanders with Panzers and Highlanders!!

Choice A: Death to the English!
Effect: Scotland becomes nation, Scotland declares war on England, Scotland becomes member of Axis alliance, 200,000 Highlanders in Edinburgh, "Robert the Brute" will now rule our nation, General Willy Wallace in Edinburgh


Have fun!

 

[Petrarca]

Originally posted by jacob-Lundgren
lol sorry i cant support adding scotland to the game. though i am all for making a demo available early for those who are die-hard fans here

on a side note i think the eu2 version of landings like overlord would be 300 warships and 50 transports vs 15 galleys. ie the massed warships wont even be slowed a bit as the battle will just end instanly with the galleys losing

This raises the interesting question- should the enemy fleet be allowed to charge in hell for leather in order to sink the transports, despite the costs to themselves- think Leyte Gulf as a suicide run, with the Japanese not backing off and Halsey not taking his battleships on a wild goose chase?
In other words: "Sire, the enemy fleet is at the bottom of the seas, but so are our transports!"

 

[unmerged(7996)]

A good question...and...to expand that a little? Will we be able to target specific ship types? (i.e. Sink the carrier at all costs!)

 

[unmerged(8622)]

In a word?
I cant tell you anything!
-SS

 

[Petrarca]

Originally posted by Shadow Soldier
In a word?
I cant tell you anything!
-SS

Some help you are!

 

[unmerged(703)]

Hmmm....

...... we also need to have air transport.... The airtransport should give a higher speed and be able to pass enemy troops....

 

[unmerged(3168)]

Originally posted by Backpack
A good question...and...to expand that a little? Will we be able to target specific ship types? (i.e. Sink the carrier at all costs!)

This is from the Strategy Gaming preview talking about Ground combat

'During combat, each attacking unit chooses a defending target unit based on a priority set by the player."

So I'd think that this same system would be available in naval combat also. So I'll stick my neck out and say, yes! (this dispite the fact that I know nothing about HOI's game mechanics)

 

[Duritz]

Originally posted by Shadow Soldier
In a word?
I cant tell you anything!
-SS

Hey, that's five words!

BP - I'd suggest that in the same way that ground forces can occupy the same sea zone as the enemy's and still maintain "control" of the sector - the same at sea.

Ditto on the EU experience - damn frustrating.......

Duritz.

P.S. Ha Ha Scotland - Australia's in the game and you aren't. Sorry guys, just kidding. Look on the bright side, at least you'll get the game relatively quickly. Down here I'll have to wait until HOI3 before an Aussie distributor will touch it. Looks like I'll be paying big Yankie dollars to import it.

 

[jacob-Lundgren]

our us dollars arent that large are they?
and at least you will speak the language the us version is in. imigine if you were from some little countrty that not only didnt have it released but that your only langauge wasnt going to have its own copy? its horrible to think of!

 

[Duritz]

But we do speak a different language..... English

And yes, compared to our crappy currency your dollars are very big (at least the hole in my account where the money used to be is always big ).

You're right though, no matter how bad it looks, it could be much worse....... the game might not exist at all!!! Hardly worth thinking about.

 

[Thanak]

I'm gonna buy the US version too if goes out first, but I hate myself everytime I do that.

By buying US version, you only boost american sales so the sales in your country look smaller in comparisson. Smaller non-US sales is not the way to make the distributor hurry up on those non-US version.

But then again the wait is just too long, so screw long term ideals, give me a game ASAP !