Tribals don't have the ''shut the gate decision'' but Feudals have it, no matter the epidemic's distance.

[G.Strategos]

Hey, guys!
Ziji, Team.

I'm back to CK2 after many months and I have (accidentally) just found a quite serious issue with two sub-parts. Not sure who's still active now that CK3 is out, but I can see @Delnar_Ersike is still fixing bugs, in the beta and that's really good to know!

1) Tribals don't have the ''shut the gate'' (seclude) decision, even when the Epidemic is right in their capital (both player and AI).
2) Feudals have it, no matter the epidemic's distance. Even when an epidemic hits India, William the Bastard can shut its castle's gates in Normandy.

I'm not 100% sure these are actual bugs, but I have found a fellow player's report, with a similar issue before some time (check here). ZIji told him it's probably a mod conflict, but, it's not a conflict for sure, cause I'm using a clean FULL HIP (Frosty 3) installation atm and this issue is still hitting the AI and Human Player alike.

I've searched the code in rip_various_decisions.txt and I have found the issue in:

Spoiler

potential = {
has_dlc = "Reapers"
OR = {
is_landed = yes
is_patrician = yes
}
NOR = {
is_tribal = yes
is_nomadic = yes
is_inaccessible_trigger = yes
}
emf_hiprio_decision_basic_potential = yes
}

1) If you want your tribals and nomads to be able to seclude themselves during an epidemic, just delete them in the ''NOR'' bracket.
2) To fix the second issue, just replace the rip_various_decisions.txt (Seclusion parts) with the Vanilla ones, and now you can only shut the gates when the disease strikes near you capital, which I think is what the HIP team was trying to do since Hades 5 as you can see from its release notes: (Reaper's Due) Shut The Gates! decision now only becomes available when an epidemic is actually nearby your capital rather than anywhere at all within your independent realm.

Well, I'm too lazy to clean fix them atm with proper coding and it's also 5 in the morning here

I hope, this will not interfere (I think it won't) with the ''go-to hiding'' decision, when someone is trying to murder you and the devs will see it and ''fix'' it properly if it's indeed a bug.
Till then, just use my instructions, if you want to try a dirty dirty fix

Cheers!

 

[VYNLT]

Where is the seclusion section?

 

[G.Strategos]

Where is the seclusion section?

rip_various_decisions.txt

 

[VYNLT]

rip_various_decisions.txt

I know, but where exactly in the document?

 

[G.Strategos]

I know, but where exactly in the document?

I know, but where exactly in the document?

Oh, just search for the spoiler section, there is only one similar entry.

 

[RLTYProds]

A bit late, but thanks for offering the fixes.

 

[G.Strategos]

A bit late, but thanks for offering the fixes.

My pleasure!

 

[Militantti Talitintti]

Interesting that such an issue has been left unaddressed.

 

[G.Strategos]

Interesting that such an issue has been left unaddressed.

Yeah, but most Devs aren't active anymore. So I don't think this will be fixed (properly) anytime soon.

 

[Militantti Talitintti]

Would you happen to have any clue how to fix this issue as well?

AI characters are receiving treatments for only symptoms, if even them, and not illnesses. Frosty3 without any other mods

 

[G.Strategos]

Would you happen to have any clue how to fix this issue as well?

Not sure, I'll have to check and compare the related files, plus double check if there's any fix in the HIP's beta for it.