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So, i'm planning on restoring the Byzantine Empire with its rightful rulers the Komnenos. Just wondering if anyone had any hints or tips, especially where to expand to first, should I try and restore ASAP, or let Ottomans conquer greece while I build up my power base. Also, I'm struggling to survive against Aq Qoyunlu, who will attack me almost immediately, who should I get as allies to protect me. Also my idea groups I was thinking of was religious, quality, humanism, then I'm not sure. Will this suffice or is there a better order?
 

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So, i'm planning on restoring the Byzantine Empire with its rightful rulers the Komnenos. Just wondering if anyone had any hints or tips, especially where to expand to first, should I try and restore ASAP, or let Ottomans conquer greece while I build up my power base. Also, I'm struggling to survive against Aq Qoyunlu, who will attack me almost immediately, who should I get as allies to protect me. Also my idea groups I was thinking of was religious, quality, humanism, then I'm not sure. Will this suffice or is there a better order?
I've never tried Trebizond but it looks bad.

You can only expand East otherwise you will run into Ottomans cores and you don't want that.

I wonder... Since the Ottomans do not start with a core or claim on your province, maybe it would be possible to ally them? What's their attitude toward you at the start?
 

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In EU3 you could build a weak trade empire and run full minting to build up surplus cash while conquering extra provinces to build a large navy to trap Ottomans on the European side of the Bosporus (inverted Byzantine strategy)

You can't do that in EU4
 

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Hmm
It's a tough nut.
Some thoughts. Ally Georgia, DoW the 2PM I cannot spell on the other side of Georgia and Annex. Move capital there. Annex Circassia. DoW Georgia and annex them. Go from there.
Haven't tried it though.
 

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Hmm
It's a tough nut.
Some thoughts. Ally Georgia, DoW the 2PM I cannot spell on the other side of Georgia and Annex. Move capital there. Annex Circassia. DoW Georgia and annex them. Go from there.
Haven't tried it though.

I might have to try this, thought I got off to a good start vassalising and annexing Circassia, then as I was about to attack that 2PM QQ attacked and wouldnt accept anything less than vassalisation. I was also thinking about perhaps trying to fully annex Byzantium by declaring war day one and restarting until Ottomans arent hostile so I can get mil access, and then trying to do a normal Byzantine strategy, but wasnt sure If I would be able to win that first war
 

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I might have to try this, thought I got off to a good start vassalising and annexing Circassia, then as I was about to attack that 2PM QQ attacked and wouldnt accept anything less than vassalisation. I was also thinking about perhaps trying to fully annex Byzantium by declaring war day one and restarting until Ottomans arent hostile so I can get mil access, and then trying to do a normal Byzantine strategy, but wasnt sure If I would be able to win that first war

Circassia is twice as much to core their land that includes the cost diplo annexing. Better, take Crimea as a vassal and feed them Circassia.

I would personally get ready to no cb Genoa the moment Venice or whoever declares on them, Kaffa is terrific and..umm...Avova? whichever one you could snipe would be great. As a 1 province minor you must be opportunistic as hell. I don't know what will happen to you if the Ottos ally the Horde.
 

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In any case you need to get out of your starting position as QQ WILL attack and in due time the Ottoes are gonna come knocking too. The Caucasus seems like a good place to start and them take opportunities as they arise from there.