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Passivocalia

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Nov 24, 2005
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I was upset that England and France had no say in the Treaty of Munich and appeasement in general, so I edited the chain a bit. Let me know if you think it needs further additions or if some of them went to far.

As of now, I didn't add any options for Italy to protest... but the following changes have been made:

-If Germany demands the Sudetenland, England is given the choice of whether to sign the treaty.
-If England refuses to sign the treaty, Czechoslovakia is given a different event for whether to accept the claims. Like Poland when supported, the Czechs will most likely will choose to fight.
-If England signs the treaty, the Gearing Up For War effects are incorporated into the choice, dissent drops significantly, and France is given the option to sign the treaty.
-If France refuses to sign the treaty, they leave the Allies and automatically form a new alliance with Czechoslovakia. The Czechs are then given their emboldened version of whether to accept German demands.
-If France signs the treaty, the Gearing Up For War effects are incorporated into the choice, dissent drops significantly, and Czechoslovakia is left with its historical dilemma.
-For both England and France, signing the Treaty of Munich will cancel all independence guarantees on the Czechs. If the Czechs refuse, and Germany declares war, then the Czechs will probably have to fight alone. The Western Betrayal is very real here.
-If Czechoslovakia offers to join the Axis, there is a small chance Germany can refuse and go to war to seize its core provinces (mainly for the sake of giving the player an option). I added a similar choice to Austria's alliance offer, incidentally, but it is not here.
-If Czechoslovakia accepts the claims, its leadership flees the country and is replaced as per history. Instead of Jan Syrovy briefly taking over the government until December, however, he is just made Head of Army. These ministers are already included in the minister files; they were just never incorporated into events.

EDITED EVENTS IN THE GERMANY FILE (lines to be commented out are boldened and italicized; lines to be added are boldened and underlined):

#########################################################################
# The Treaty of Munich
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 2030
random = no
country = GER
trigger = {
atwar = no
exists = CZE
OR = {
control = { province = 467 data = CZE }
control = { province = 466 data = CZE }
control = { province = 471 data = CZE }
control = { province = 472 data = CZE }
}
NOT = {
OR = {
war = { country = CZE country = GER }
alliance = { country = CZE country = GER }
# alliance = { country = CZE country = ENG }
# alliance = { country = CZE country = SOV }
ispuppet = GER
puppet = { country = CZE country = GER }
}
}
}
name = "EVT_2030_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2030_DESC"
style = 0
picture = "Munich"

date = { day = 29 month = september year = 1938 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2030A" # Demand Sudetenland!
ai_chance = 97
# command = { type = trigger which = 2200 } # CZE
command = { type = trigger which = 9037 } # ENG
command = { type = addcore which = 467 } # 5 Sudetenland provinces
command = { type = addcore which = 466 }
command = { type = addcore which = 471 }
command = { type = addcore which = 472 }
command = { type = addcore which = 474 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = CZE value = -20 }
command = { type = belligerence which = GER value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = interventionism value = 3 }
# command = { type = trigger which = 51 } # UK Gears up for war
# command = { type = trigger which = 52 } # France Gears up for war
command = { type = domestic which = defense_lobby value = 1 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2030B" # Leave well enough alone
ai_chance = 3
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 10 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 10 }
command = { type = relation which = CZE value = 20 }
command = { type = belligerence which = GER value = -2 }
command = { type = dissent value = 5 }
}
}

#########################################################################
# The Treaty of Munich - Czechoslovakia joins the Axis
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 2004
random = no
country = GER
# Triggered by CZE 2200
name = "EVT_2004_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2004_DESC"
style = 0
picture = "Munich"

action_a = {
name = "OK"
ai_chance = 99
command = { type = set_relation which = CZE value = 100 }
}

action_b = {
name = "Unacceptible!"
ai_chance = 1
command = { type = war which = CZE }
}

}

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EDITED EVENT IN THE CZECHOSLOVAKIA FILE (lines to be commented out are boldened and italicized; lines to be added are boldened and underlined):
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#########################################################################
# The Treaty of Munich
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 2200
random = no
country = CZE

# triggered by GER 2030

name = "EVT_2200_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2200_DESC"
style = 0
picture = "Munich"

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2200A" # Accept the Claims
ai_chance = 96
command = { type = leave_alliance }
command = { type = headofstate which = 24031 } #Emil Hácha
command = { type = headofgovernment which = 24046 } #Rudolf Beran
command = { type = chiefofarmy which = 24127 } #Jan Syrovy

command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 466 } #Strakonice
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 467 } #Tabor
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 471 } #Usti
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 472 } #Liberec
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 474 } #Ostrava
command = { type = relation which = GER value = 10 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -10 }
command = { type = domestic which = democratic value = -2 }
command = { type = domestic which = freedom value = -1 }
command = { type = dissent value = 25 }
command = { type = trigger which = 2003 } # GER
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2200B" # Join the Axis
ai_chance = 1
command = { type = leave_alliance }
command = { type = alliance which = GER }
command = { type = relation which = GER value = 40 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -40 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -40 }
command = { type = relation which = SOV value = -30 }
command = { type = domestic which = freedom value = -1 }
command = { type = set_domestic which = democratic value = 3 }
command = { type = set_domestic which = political_left value = 4 }
command = { type = dissent value = 25 }
command = { type = trigger which = 2004 } # GER
command = { type = headofstate which = 24034 }
command = { type = headofgovernment which = 24046 }
command = { type = foreignminister which = 24058 }
command = { type = armamentminister which = 24070 }
command = { type = ministerofsecurity which = 24087 }
command = { type = ministerofintelligence which = 24104 }
command = { type = chiefofstaff which = 24119 }
command = { type = chiefofarmy which = 24131 }
command = { type = chiefofnavy which = 24138 }
command = { type = chiefofair which = 24144 }
}
action_c = {
name = "Come and take it!" # No way!
ai_chance = 3
command = { type = leave_alliance }
command = { type = domestic which = political_left value = 2 }
command = { type = relation which = GER value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = SOV value = 30 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -10 }
command = { type = dissent value = 25 }
command = { type = trigger which = 2005 } # GER
}
}

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ADDED EVENTS (your personal event numbers may have to be changed):
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#########################################################################
# The Treaty of Munich
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 9037
random = no
country = ENG

# triggered by GER 2030

name = "EVT_2200_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2200_DESC"
style = 0
picture = "Munich"

action_a = {
name = "Sign the Treaty"
ai_chance = 99
command = { type = relation which = CZE value = -40 }
command = { type = dissent value = -25 }
command = { type = end_guarantee which = ENG where = CZE }
command = { type = peacetime_ic_mod value = 10 }
command = { type = domestic which = defense_lobby value = 1 }
command = { type = manpowerpool value = 15 }
command = { type = trigger which = 9038 } # FRA
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2200C" # No way!
ai_chance = 1
command = { type = relation which = GER value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = CZE value = 30 }
command = { type = dissent value = 25 }
command = { type = trigger which = 9039 } # CZE
}
}

#########################################################################
# The Treaty of Munich
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 9038
random = no
country = FRA

name = "EVT_2200_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2200_DESC"
style = 0
picture = "Munich"

action_a = {
name = "Sign the Treaty"
ai_chance = 99
command = { type = relation which = CZE value = -50 }
command = { type = dissent value = -25 }
command = { type = end_guarantee which = FRA where = CZE }
command = { type = peacetime_ic_mod value = 10 }
command = { type = manpowerpool value = 15 }
command = { type = trigger which = 2200 } # CZE
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2200C" # No way!
ai_chance = 1
command = { type = leave_alliance }
command = { type = alliance which = CZE }
command = { type = relation which = GER value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = CZE value = 30 }
command = { type = dissent value = 25 }
command = { type = trigger which = 9039 } # CZE
}
}

#########################################################################
# The Treaty of Munich (Czechs have allies)
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 9039
random = no
country = CZE

name = "EVT_2200_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2200_DESC"
style = 0
picture = "Munich"

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2200A" # Accept the Claims
ai_chance = 3
command = { type = leave_alliance }
command = { type = headofstate which = 24031 } #Emil Hácha
command = { type = headofgovernment which = 24046 } #Rudolf Beran
command = { type = chiefofarmy which = 24127 } #Jan Syrovy
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 466 } #Strakonice
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 467 } #Tabor
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 471 } #Usti
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 472 } #Liberec
command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 474 } #Ostrava
command = { type = relation which = GER value = 10 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -10 }
command = { type = domestic which = democratic value = -2 }
command = { type = domestic which = freedom value = -1 }
command = { type = dissent value = 25 }
command = { type = trigger which = 2003 } # GER
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2200B" # Join the Axis
ai_chance = 1
command = { type = leave_alliance }
command = { type = alliance which = GER }
command = { type = relation which = GER value = 40 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -40 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -40 }
command = { type = relation which = SOV value = -30 }
command = { type = domestic which = freedom value = -1 }
command = { type = set_domestic which = democratic value = 3 }
command = { type = set_domestic which = political_left value = 4 }
command = { type = dissent value = 25 }
command = { type = trigger which = 2004 } # GER
command = { type = headofstate which = 24034 }
command = { type = headofgovernment which = 24046 }
command = { type = foreignminister which = 24058 }
command = { type = armamentminister which = 24070 }
command = { type = ministerofsecurity which = 24087 }
command = { type = ministerofintelligence which = 24104 }
command = { type = chiefofstaff which = 24119 }
command = { type = chiefofarmy which = 24131 }
command = { type = chiefofnavy which = 24138 }
command = { type = chiefofair which = 24144 }
}
action_c = {
name = "Come and take it!"
ai_chance = 96
command = { type = domestic which = political_left value = 2 }
command = { type = relation which = GER value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = SOV value = 30 }
command = { type = dissent value = 25 }
command = { type = trigger which = 2005 } # GER
}
}
 

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Passivocalia said:
-For both England and France, signing the Treaty of Munich will cancel all independence guarantees on the Czechs.
They were still guaranteeing the "new" borders. The guarantee was formally in place at least until March 1939.
Passivocalia said:
If the Czechs refuse, and Germany declares war, then the Czechs will probably have to fight alone. The Western Betrayal is very real here.
Agree, but you have to make sure, that the Polish guarantee is removed.
Passivocalia said:
-If Czechoslovakia accepts the claims, its leadership flees the country and is replaced as per history. Instead of Jan Syrovy briefly taking over the government until December, however, he is just made Head of Army. These ministers are already included in the minister files; they were just never incorporated into events.
Good idea, but I will add an event on Oct 5 to change those ministers.

HIP has also significantly modified and enlarged the series.
 
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Passivocalia

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Nov 24, 2005
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Panther G said:
They were still guaranteeing the "new" borders. The guarantee was formally in place at least until March 1939.

Ah. An easy way to remedy that would be to make the final event in the Munich chain (Treaty of Munich - Sudetenland to Germany) have a command that reestablishes English and French guarantees.

Agree, but you have to make sure, that the Polish guarantee is removed.

Even though Poland wasn't involved in the agreement?

Good idea, but I will add an event on Oct 5 to change those ministers.

Nothing beats maximum precision. I don't suppose you've edited the Edward abdication events to have Baldwin's resignation as a separate matter, have you? I'd be interested in copying it if you have.

For General Syrovy, I think you'd have to make a new HoS minister for him. I remember seeing him as a potential Old General HoG, but I don't believe I spotted his name as a Resigned Generalissimo anywhere.

HIP has also significantly modified and enlarged the series.

I was unaware. Which mod is HIP, and what all does it incorporate?
 

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Passivocalia said:
Ah. An easy way to remedy that would be to make the final event in the Munich chain (Treaty of Munich - Sudetenland to Germany) have a command that reestablishes English and French guarantees.
I am a bit undecided about this, the historic outcome of Munich might give guarantees from ENG and FRA. But on the other hand were they just formally. Chamberlain said, that his guarantee has expired, because the state to protect would no longer exist in March 1939.
Passivocalia said:
Even though Poland wasn't involved in the agreement?
They were demanding Teschen from Czechoslovakia, if they do that, they can no longer protect. With guarantee, you will probably end up with Poland joining CZE against Germany.
Passivocalia said:
Nothing beats maximum precision. I don't suppose you've edited the Edward abdication events to have Baldwin's resignation as a separate matter, have you? I'd be interested in copying it if you have.
The next version will have a seperate event for Baldwin's retirement.
Passivocalia said:
For General Syrovy, I think you'd have to make a new HoS minister for him. I remember seeing him as a potential Old General HoG, but I don't believe I spotted his name as a Resigned Generalissimo anywhere.
He is there as HoS (24034) PA ideology.
Passivocalia said:
I was unaware. Which mod is HIP,
You can get there via my signature
Passivocalia said:
and what all does it incorporate?
There is a comprehensive changed log available.
 
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