Treasure Fleet inflation is off by an order of magnitude

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Never let facts get in the way of a good title.

Also, half an order of magnitude isn't 5, it's square root of 10. ;)

Why? I would say that because magnitude is exponential thing than you should use logarithm !
 

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This figuring out exactly what half an order of magnitude is is way too complicated, I suggest we switch to base 5 instead.
 

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Why? I would say that because magnitude is exponential thing than you should use logarithm !

That's exactly what I'm doing, but I'm using the base 10 log though since it's what's most commonly used when people talk about magnitudes. In that case, increasing something by x orders of magnitude means multiplying it by 10^x, since x->log10(x) and x->10^x are inverse functions.

The natural log is just a base e log, but the idea is the same.
 
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That's exactly what I'm doing, but I'm using the base 10 log though since it's what's most commonly used when people talk about magnitudes. In that case, increasing something by x orders of magnitude means multiplying it by 10^, since x->log10(x) and x->10^x are inverse functions.

The natural log is just a base e log, but the idea is the same.

Yeah, you are right, I wrote before thinking this throught
:) not the first time ...