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In my mughals game, the Ottomans without having a single province in the Persian trade Node (Inland so no boats) and without even a merchant get 53.5 trade power modified to more than 60 (they also have 1.20 form Ak K which is their protectorate), without doing anything they have more trade power, than me when I have all the provinces but 3 (with a penalty from collecting out of capital and 30% overextension).

Well the problem is not that I'm not very efficient with my merchant here, it's the insane trade power they get without a merchant while other countries who send one only get between 1 and 2 power.

the tooltip say it's because they have merchant upstream (they are just normally collecting in constantinople). I'd like to know why and how they are able to get all that trade power.
 

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In my mughals game, the Ottomans without having a single province in the Persian trade Node (Inland so no boats) and without even a merchant get 53.5 trade power modified to more than 60 (they also have 1.20 form Ak K which is their protectorate), without doing anything they have more trade power, than me when I have all the provinces but 3 (with a penalty from collecting out of capital and 30% overextension).

Well the problem is not that I'm not very efficient with my merchant here, it's the insane trade power they get without a merchant while other countries who send one only get between 1 and 2 power.

the tooltip say it's because they have merchant upstream (they are just normally collecting in constantinople). I'd like to know why and how they are able to get all that trade power.

They get either 1/2 or 1/4 (I forget which) of their trade power in the node upstream (including tp from ships) if they have a merchant present in a node and not the node upstream from it. Since they probably own quite a bit of Constantinople that will result in quite a chunk trickling upstream if they don't have merchants steering.
 

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It seems that you're right, but it seems totally stupid to me, the Ottomans have huge trader power in Persia and Basra because they have no province but in Crimea where they have one, this trick don't work and they just have the normal trade power, so if I want to get rid of that I just have to sell them a worthless province in each of the trade nodes.