Tram route laying bug?

[gsandi]

There seems to be a problem, I wonder if anyone else has encountered this:

I try to establish a tram route. If the tracks are in the middle of an avenue, or in the outside (curb/kerb) lane of a normal road with two or more lanes in both directions, there is no problem. I can build stops along the line, and I can easily set up a route by connecting the stops, starting and ending with a depot of course.

However, if I build my tram tracks in the middle lane of a normal road, and I build my stops along it, it is not possible to connect them into a tram line. If I try to include such a stop in the line by hovering the mouse above it, I get the message "There is no available route from the previous stop". If I then change the tracks to run along the curb, the pretty red arrows appear and I can include the stop in the line.

What's more, this bug is not consistent. It seems to be in North City, while in Central City I can include stops in a route running along the middle of the road.

What's going on?

 

[Kammada]

It's WAD. Tram or trolley lines going on the middle lane of a normal road can't have stops. Those going on the middle lane of a road with parking lanes CAN have stops (with either the trolleys steering to the curbside or the passengers crossing the parking space to board the tram). The problem is, the parking lane markings are not that much different (shorter dashes) than the ordinary ones. So it may look like an inconsistency, but it isn't.

 

[unmerged(424960)]

The stop have to be immediately near to the vehicle. So you can add a stop to a line only if it's adjacent to the tracks. It isn't like that for trolleys for example, because those can switch lane due to the pantograph (don't know the exact english name) give a bit of freedom of movement.
If you are able to add stops on other maps, that's the bug. Anyway, are you sure that you're adding a stop in the middle of the road, or next to a parking lane instead? In that case it's ok to being able to add stops.

 

[gsandi]

Thanks, guys. Indeed, the issue is resolved if I change the road type to one with parking lanes.

I guess the designers of the game have never been to Toronto, where streetcar (tram) stops are marked on the sidewalk, which is where passengers wait until a streetcar comes to a stop. No parking is allowed in these areas, and passing cars must stop while passengers cross the road to get to and from the streetcar. Which is why Mayor Ford (a classic car-loving suburbanite) hates streetcars, I guess - but I digress.

 

[unmerged(721804)]

It is the same in Melbourne, so it is not an isolated thing.

 

[Lord Vetinari]

Where I live, in those rare cases when the trams run in the middle lane of a normal road, there are small platforms on the sides of it where tere's a stop, like this:



I suppose that would be cool to have something like this, but I can imagine that there would be problems with the size of the whole thing.

I never saw a situation where the trams is in the middle of the road, but the stop is on the sidewalk.

 

[jimmy_lam]

Where I live, in those rare cases when the trams run in the middle lane of a normal road, there are small platforms on the sides of it where tere's a stop, like this:

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I suppose that would be cool to have something like this, but I can imagine that there would be problems with the size of the whole thing.

I never saw a situation where the trams is in the middle of the road, but the stop is on the sidewalk.

Small platform? For the same case in Hong Kong, no platform will be provided :laugh:

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https://maps.google.com.hk/maps?hl=...d=KZZZJ9RV0_SsfM__SWMo4w&cbp=12,54.1,,0,15.12

 

[OlavEmil]

Where I live, in those rare cases when the trams run in the middle lane of a normal road, there are small platforms on the sides of it where tere's a stop, like this:

View attachment 81097

I suppose that would be cool to have something like this, but I can imagine that there would be problems with the size of the whole thing.

I never saw a situation where the trams is in the middle of the road, but the stop is on the sidewalk.

That is how it already is in CiM2, with the trams running in the middle of the avenue, and using stops placed out there.

 

[unmerged(521037)]

I never saw a situation where the trams is in the middle of the road, but the stop is on the sidewalk.

Toronto: https://maps.google.ca/?ll=43.64592...=UNBaHsr2skbn2GEU7Vp2iQ&cbp=12,74.52,,0,-0.27

See those tracks? Tram tracks. See that shelter? Tram shelter. The bulk of Toronto's downtown streetcar network operates like this.

 

[Lord Vetinari]

That is how it already is in CiM2, with the trams running in the middle of the avenue, and using stops placed out there.

Not entirely, because where I live private cars can run in those middle bits unless they are marked as reserved lanes.

 

[Senap]

That is pretty cool, and looks very similar to the tram stops from CiM1