Due to the newest patches, which will decrease your trade efficiency by one for every trade agreement, the trade has become useless. Let´s say I play Sweden and I send merchants to Mecklemburg and Courland. I pay 2-5 for each placing and I gain 6d in a year(or is it month) for them. Anyway I get competed away very often. So it means I gain 1d a month. So what is the use?
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Trade is extremely valuable, but hammering in merchants the way the autosend does is a sure loser. Ease them in when the CoT has less than 20, takes longer & unfortunately you have to count them, but the result is about a 75% success rate.
Also, they appear to me to be used as a weapon of war, your merchants are specifically targeted by your adversaries. So I suggest a more peaceful Sweden if you want trade to flourish
-stillzig
Also, they appear to me to be used as a weapon of war, your merchants are specifically targeted by your adversaries. So I suggest a more peaceful Sweden if you want trade to flourish
-stillzig
You still have embargoes
And you still make plenty of cash by using TA, it was just too easy to TA everything and make much $$$ cheaply.
And you still make plenty of cash by using TA, it was just too easy to TA everything and make much $$$ cheaply.
Every ducat is valueble. And as you go through the game more tech-wise, the human almost always outstrips the AI in Trade & Inftrastructure tech, allowing you to dominate every COT there is.
Every ducat is sacred, every ducat is great, if a ducat is wasted, god gets quite irate.
The money tends to pay itself back by about 20x by the end of the game. Even though trade has been toned down, it is still the main source if income for, except for *MAYBE* nations like Spain or Russia, everyone.
Im talking about short term though, as most of us do will it pay itself back in a competetive cot in 1 year?
will it pay itself back in a competetive cot in 1 year? 
Trade will probably not pay itself back in the short term, but this game is 400 years long, so why think short term? In European CoTs, you could at level 5 mercahnt status, get 100 ducats a year, depending on trade level. Whereas, if you get 12 merchants a year, aka, one a month, you lose, anywhere from 12 ducats to say 90 ducats. Obviously it does not really pay in the short term, but in the future, if you're trade efficient and pick the right CoTs, you won't have to replace merchants too much, and you're economy will be greatly expanded.
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Just a little comparison.
In Tsunami, England, France, Netherlands have about 100$ more monthly than the other nations who hover around 50$ because they control the trade.
In Tsunami, England, France, Netherlands have about 100$ more monthly than the other nations who hover around 50$ because they control the trade.
I have found that trade is not as valuable in the beginning of the game, when trade efficiency is still low. When I play countries that start off weak, I rarely send out merchants until I feel secure in my position.
That said, trade does really pay off in the long term. But if you need money now, trade is not such a good idea.
That said, trade does really pay off in the long term. But if you need money now, trade is not such a good idea.
Originally posted by DarthMaur
France? France doesn't have single merchant
You should embargo England from Ile de France... might give you a chance of getting merchants there... and I promise as Portugal not to send merchants there if you leave me alone
HahaOriginally posted by artemis667
You should embargo England from Ile de France... might give you a chance of getting merchants there... and I promise as Portugal not to send merchants there if you leave me alone
I rather though of embargoing Netherlands, Habsburgs, and some others, so England could get monopoly in Ile de France
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Well in mp the money could be used much more for protecting yourself rather than trading, especially when the ai can get quite fiesty when it comes to the trade centers