I find that 2-3 TPs can often compare to the income of 4-5 castles in 1066. Seems kinda silly.
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Trade Route TPs are OP?
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dont know, 3 tp's for 5 castles seems reasonable to me, definitely since they are limited and 5 castles don't really give that much. unless you meant 5 provinces, then maybe its a bit too much
Trade posts for feudal rulers are kinda OP.
The situation for them is even worse as it was in Res publica: they give you a ton of wealth, and because there is no redistribution, it is effectively just a massive boost to income.
If you manage to "conquer" TP, it gets kinda ridiculus: there is a hard cap for the number of TP you can have, but if you manage to accumulate more than the limit, there is no event to put you back to the limit.
Example: Playing as the king of France (started with Louis the Stammerer), I inherit 2 TP: Paris and Sarcelles. After some time, I declare a "Carolingian reconquest" on the Carolingian Empire (WTF?! I don't think it should be possible) for Provence. I win, and lo and behold, I now own the TP of Provence!
I am at 3/2 TP, no malus, TP of Provence has ~35 BT, castle in Paris ~20 BT.
I make 20 gold/month, and I'm like "this is too easy".
The situation for them is even worse as it was in Res publica: they give you a ton of wealth, and because there is no redistribution, it is effectively just a massive boost to income.
If you manage to "conquer" TP, it gets kinda ridiculus: there is a hard cap for the number of TP you can have, but if you manage to accumulate more than the limit, there is no event to put you back to the limit.
Example: Playing as the king of France (started with Louis the Stammerer), I inherit 2 TP: Paris and Sarcelles. After some time, I declare a "Carolingian reconquest" on the Carolingian Empire (WTF?! I don't think it should be possible) for Provence. I win, and lo and behold, I now own the TP of Provence!
I am at 3/2 TP, no malus, TP of Provence has ~35 BT, castle in Paris ~20 BT.
I make 20 gold/month, and I'm like "this is too easy".
As a recently feudalised ruler of Prussia I quickly got 20 in monthly income, mostly from my one TP in Danzig. I think land trade post buildings should give less direct income and and instead boost the whole trade route more instead, if that is at all possible. I actively tried to build up the Amber Road area (As mentioned I had tons of cash), but its value barely increased. What gives? What values affect the wealth of the trade route as a whole?
Edit: To clarify, my gripe with this is that even in a piss-poor trade route (Amber route with like +2% city tax) a trade post gives LOTS of money directly to a feudal lord. I could understand them "draining" lots of cash from a rich route, but creating it out of thin air? Not to my liking.
Edit: To clarify, my gripe with this is that even in a piss-poor trade route (Amber route with like +2% city tax) a trade post gives LOTS of money directly to a feudal lord. I could understand them "draining" lots of cash from a rich route, but creating it out of thin air? Not to my liking.
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hmm thats strange because im now emperor of the byzantine empire, and i have a tradepost in byzantium and im getting 20 from the entire empire. i guess maybe because its only 800 ad?
i definitely do think tradeposts are way too cheap to make, if you consider how expensive other buildings are in castles etc, or to create a single holding. a trade post costs like 10% of that.
i definitely do think tradeposts are way too cheap to make, if you consider how expensive other buildings are in castles etc, or to create a single holding. a trade post costs like 10% of that.
Well, how many upgrades do you have on it? Unupgraded, it certainly does not bring in much income. However, fully upgraded, they are incredibly OP.
yea i guess its that, i dont have that many upgrades on it, i only recently became emperor. it kidna came out of nowhere, some nobles started a civil war and they put me on the throne after. maybe because i was neutral and could be trusted?!!?!