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Yes but collecting in both champagne and bordeuax means you lack the cumulative bonus from Bourdeaux trade moving to champagne, as well as the trsde efficiency malus

Right. However you will earn more money in Bourdeaux, Paris and The Channel than you will lose in Genoa.

Op has a stranglehold on genoa, so it makes sense to assume he has more than 50%

You will also lose a lot of trade value, both for the trade power you don't control in Genoa and the percentage of trade value that goes to The Channel (where you wouldn't be collecting).

Paris (champagne) is the default home node, so will always collect there until moved

He said "I made that my trade city and push all my trade there" so I assume his trade capital is in Genoa node and he's not collecting at Paris (Champagne)

Niet, like collecting in ivory coast and sevilla as Portugal

Trying what I said has nothing to do with Portugal.
 

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That would reduce your potential income drastically though. Collecting reduces profits being sent forward handicapping your economy its only usefull to collect on nodes that yo cant bring to your home node directly Like in the Persia region you should collect untill you have a lot of control over the region
No, it depends on your trade power on the different nodes. If significant trade goes from A to B then C (your end node) and you have trade values of 80% in A and 10% in B (where others steer trade to a node different from C), you should always collect in A (otherwise 90% of the trade you steer will go to others).
 

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I think these are all "It depends" things. Sometimes you should collect in Ivory Coast and Sevilla as Portugal, in particular if you have very high control in Ivory Coast and are sharing a lot with Spain in Sevilla. Bringing everything to your home node is a decent rule of thumb and in the long run it's usually what you want to aim for, but it's far from always right. So:


Is quite good advice. Sometimes you are throwing money away by forwarding, other times by collecting. In the OP's case, forwarding to Genoa is probably the right choice, but it depends on numbers that we don't know. Same with whether to collect in the channel or not.
Absolutely right. It always depends on the particular situation.

In a very particular situation, it is possible that collecting in Genoa is the right choice. But if you're playing France this wouldn't be the best situation. You should try to steer as much trade as possible to Bourdeaux and get as much trade power you can in The Channel (I'm sorry, Netherlands). And if you do that, collecting in the 4 nodes is the best option.

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We don't know the situation in the OP's game but starting 1618 scenario and giving France a good portion of Italy we find:

a. Collecting in Genoa (trade capital in Genoa):

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b. Collecting in Genoa, Champagne and The Channel (trade capital in Genoa):

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c. Collecting in Genoa, Champagne and The Channel (trade capital in Champagne):

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Option c is the right one here, even though few trade arrives to Bourdeaux (4,74$) and France has few trade power in The Channel (6%).
 
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