Trade and tech question

[Jarlhen]

So I was playing around as Sparta right. Managed to get trade access through all the nations in between me an Egypt. Sweet, thinks I, elephants and spice! Newp, not at all. Is there some manner of trade restriction which means you can only trade a certain amount of provinces away over land even with trade access?

Also. Is there a reason I'm so flipping slow at research? I've got 10-12 questions and stuff, yet much smaller nations are ahead of me in research. If I understand the system right the bigger you are the better you research, as opposed to EU 3. So any research advice?

 

[vanin]

When it comes to trade, you have a set amount of traderoutes at your disposal. So, as Sparta you begin with iron at your capital, and you can in turn trade this iron for, say, grain. However, if you only have 1 taderoute you can't trade your iron for both grain and spices, you can only choose one.

Not to mention, as those elephants and spices in Egypt are probably in provinces far from the coast, and in those cases roads are needed to transport the goods, roads that sadly don't come into play until much, much later in the game.

Research is a tad tricky in Rome. It is decided by your amount of citizens, and not total population. Assume that you go on a spree and conquer everything you can. Every conquered province with a different culture than your country would see its citizens disappear, wich in turn will hurt your research. Research is balanced around the % of your citizens, rather than your amount of citizens, so if you are a small country with a population of 20 out of wich 10 are citizens, you would research quicker than an empire with 200 population but only 20 citizens. As a rule: Don't expand too quickly if you are keen on keeping your technology up to date.

 

[unmerged(152202)]

When it comes to trade, you have a set amount of traderoutes at your disposal. So, as Sparta you begin with iron at your capital, and you can in turn trade this iron for, say, grain. However, if you only have 1 taderoute you can't trade your iron for both grain and spices, you can only choose one.

Not to mention, as those elephants and spices in Egypt are probably in provinces far from the coast, and in those cases roads are needed to transport the goods, roads that sadly don't come into play until much, much later in the game.

Research is a tad tricky in Rome. It is decided by your amount of citizens, and not total population. Assume that you go on a spree and conquer everything you can. Every conquered province with a different culture than your country would see its citizens disappear, wich in turn will hurt your research. Research is balanced around the % of your citizens, rather than your amount of citizens, so if you are a small country with a population of 20 out of wich 10 are citizens, you would research quicker than an empire with 200 population but only 20 citizens. As a rule: Don't expand too quickly if you are keen on keeping your technology up to date.

good advice..

but just a small addition, this game is primarily about expansion and control. it will not matter if you are the most technological civilization, tech will not help you with fighting off hordes of massive armies.

Rome / VV is not based around diplomacy or whomever researches fastest gains the most up to date weapons. I personally try to get at least one in all tech, then let my percentage do it's own thing.

 

[Jarlhen]

Thanks for the help. But I still don't get the trade part. I have several provinces with no tied up trade routes at all, that's not the issue. My question was more if there's some kind of distance rule that you can't trade with provinces so or so far away from yours. In this case I have the trade agreements, I have the provinces which can trade, yet when I ask Egypt to trade it says that there's no route to the provinces. Which there is. So what's up with that?

 

[unmerged(112922)]

I'm pretty sure that the problem is a lack of roads. Can you trace a route through provinces with roads?

 

[Jarlhen]

Roads eeeh... I don't think I've built roads anywhere, don't think I have the tech level yet.

 

[unmerged(152202)]

Thanks for the help. But I still don't get the trade part. I have several provinces with no tied up trade routes at all, that's not the issue. My question was more if there's some kind of distance rule that you can't trade with provinces so or so far away from yours. In this case I have the trade agreements, I have the provinces which can trade, yet when I ask Egypt to trade it says that there's no route to the provinces. Which there is. So what's up with that?

don't know if you know this.. but on the bottom right of the screen, trigger the "trade map" view. the light blue will show you all the regions available for trading. doesn't mean they will accept the offer though.

 

[gord96]

good advice..

but just a small addition, this game is primarily about expansion and control. it will not matter if you are the most technological civilization, tech will not help you with fighting off hordes of massive armies.

Rome / VV is not based around diplomacy or whomever researches fastest gains the most up to date weapons. I personally try to get at least one in all tech, then let my percentage do it's own thing.

Does land/naval tech increase your armies/navies attack strength or does it just give you a chance of getting "extras"? by extras i mean elite units for land tech or marines for naval.

 

[unmerged(152202)]

Does land/naval tech increase your armies/navies attack strength or does it just give you a chance of getting "extras"? by extras i mean elite units for land tech or marines for naval.

hover over different areas in your technology screen, it will tell you what you will gain if you research the next level.

yes you can research certain things that will effect your units strength.

 

[Jarlhen]

See, I don't get that though. I don't think the light blue shows which you can trade with but rather which have free trade routes, which isn't the same. Cause there's tons of places that are light blue, but I can't trade with them anyways. Ze problem muzt be ze roadz!

 

[unmerged(152202)]

See, I don't get that though. I don't think the light blue shows which you can trade with but rather which have free trade routes, which isn't the same. Cause there's tons of places that are light blue, but I can't trade with them anyways. Ze problem muzt be ze roadz!

well obviously you can't trade to places not connected to seas or ones that aren't next to your territory.