TP success rate

[Owl]

I have diligently read Castellon's guide to successful colonisation but can't find any thread that explains the factors that influence the probability of successfully establishing a trading post.

I had always imagined - admittedly without having given it a lot of thought - that it was the same as establishing a colony, only less difficult (presumably because a TP is less threatening to the locals, as long as it doesn't have MacDonalds written on it)

.... but then I noticed that for one or two provinces (e.g. Buru) the chance of success is actually higher for a colony than a TP. This suggested that I really didn't understand the mechanics at all.

 

[BiB]

Were u playing England or Spain? Those nations often have better colony odds than TP ones because iof their colonisation bonus.

 

[Kelvin]

Then why did I notice the same thing playing Brandenburg (after buying maps from Golden Horde, Timurids and China, in that order)?

 

[BiB]

Because there are also otehr factors playing

 

[Owl]

I'm still playing Genoa....
but I've seen the phenomenon before.

So what are these "other factors" to which you refer so winkingly?

 

[Castellon]

Get 100% trade efficency and you will not have this problem.
Once you get trade eff. to 100% or greater you will get a HUGE bonus to the success of your TPs!
As to other factors, I did not really look at TPs too much since I rarely use them. They do use some of the same factors that colonies do, but have other influences as just noted with the Trade Eff. bonus.

 

[unmerged(8022)]

Originally posted by Castellon
Get 100% trade efficency and you will not have this problem.
Once you get trade eff. to 100% or greater you will get a HUGE bonus to the success of your TPs!
As to other factors, I did not really look at TPs too much since I rarely use them. They do use some of the same factors that colonies do, but have other influences as just noted with the Trade Eff. bonus.

Does the administration technology affects colonization?

 

[Warden]

Originally posted by J. Banér


Does the administration technology affects colonization?

I assume you mean infrastructure and the answer is (according to Castellon's FAQ) no.

 

[Castellon]

Originally posted by Warden


I assume you mean infrastructure and the answer is (according to Castellon's FAQ) no.

Becareful though since my FAQ deals with colonies and TP as noted above have a different criterion.

Trade tech does influence it with regard to getting to the 100% trade eff. And believe me this bonus is HUGE. I think they should have made it a sliding scale based on your trade tech rather than a bonus for being over 100% eff.

I have also heard though not confirmed myself that infra tech decreases the time it takes to send your colonlist/Trader. I think they had mentioned infra 4 IIRC.

 

[Owl]

I'm at trade tech level 8.

There are no country bonuses for Genoa, and no conquistador (or any other unit) is present - if indeed these factors matter for TPs.
There ARE some natives on Buru IIRC.

??

 

[Owl]

Sheesh.

Nobody knows.

Nobody cares

I suppose I'll have to work it out for myself. Sadly it took me two attempts to pass Maths at O level - and that was quite a long time ago - so don't anyone hold their breath ...

 

[unmerged(1385)]

When you have 100% or more in trade efficiencies, you have a bonus of 30%.

And the tolerance from native is not the same between TP and colony for each province. Most of the time the tolerance for TP is better than for colony, but some time not.

In province.csv file, it's the column "Negociation Value for Trading Post" and the column "native Tolerance value"

 

[unmerged(8724)]

Also, the maximum success chance is 95%, for those who haven't figured it out by now.