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Aye, it is comrade. But what importance is it of now?

I am strongly against the use of death penalty and I am searching for an association for banning it.
 

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"I'm sure the P4P is against the Slaughter of Criminals. I am sure against it."
 

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"I'm sure the P4P is against the Slaughter of Criminals. I am sure against it."

"Okey. Very nice. Can you tell me more about P4P?"
 

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Party for Progress
for a Progressive Democracy



We shall bring Stability Democracy and Equality for the Chaos that the Eutopian politics became.

Para una democracia progresiva

"Traeremos estabilidad, democracia y la igualdad para el caos que se convirtió la política de Eutopian"

pour une démocratie progressive

"Nous apporterons la stabilité, la démocratie et l'égalité pour le chaos que la politique d'Eutopian est devenue"


Motto: Bringing Democratic Stability and Equality for Eutopia.

"Lema: Traer estabilidad y la igualdad democráticas para Eutopia"

"Devise: "Apporter la stabilité démocratique et l'égalité pour Eutopia"


Party Platform


Foreign affairs

Eutopia must above all, streghten her ties with the former provinces, so that both nations may co-exist, or in a diplomatic way try to re-unite the Island.
Also we Believe Eutopia must join the World community and be active within the international community. Eutopia should above all, streghten her ties in the Atlantic nations. But never closing her eyes to other oportunities in other regions. We believe Eutopia shouldn't try to increase her influence in the world by the power of her military or by entering any alliances that are based on the military. Instead, Eutopia, must increase her influence by trade and by aiding poorer nations.



Military

The Military must be under civilian control and authority. Strategically, the role of our military is a defensive one. With the Secession of the French and Spanish Provinces and with the creation of the first Eutopian Land border, we belive the army should have a more important roll that it had before.

Eutopia must have a modern military in all brances. We support increased military funding to replace outdated and unsafe equipment, and to improve training facilities. With public knowlegue the military should be free to acquire equiment from any legitimate source. But we should focus more in becaming self sufficientand not buying so much from international sources. To do that, we belive the there must be a increase in the subsidies to ENDTech.

In the interest of continuing good relations with the US, we support the maintenance of a US military base at Farpoint. However, when off base, US citizens and military personnel who do not enjoy diplomatic status must be subject to Eutopia's laws in the same manner as every other resident or visitor.

Above all, we belive in the abolition of male conscription and the establishment of a purely professional army.


Education

We believe education until the end of secundary school should be free for every student. We belive every student is entitled to receive instruction delivered in any Eutopian laguage they choose, provided this is feasible and numbers warrant.
Secundary school: We believe every student must be able to speak two of the three major Eutopian languages on graduation.
University: We believe that post-secondary education must be accessible to all Eutopians; tuition is acceptable only if other sources of funding cannot be found, and must stay within reasonable (affordable) limits to avoid discrimination against students from underprivileged backgrounds.


Ethnic groups

The multicultural and Multilingual diversity in Eutopia should be celebrated, never deplored.

The members of minority groups must have equal access to societal goods and services. Discrimanation because of the language spoken and/or race, of the individual, must be avoided in the judicary, government, other forms of public life, and the economy. Appropriate measures to prevent or alleviate all language-based disadvantage in those areas should be put in place.


Economy

We belive in the Stable Developtment of the Economy not just in Economical growth. We believe in Capitalism with a human side, in a Capitalism that is friendlly to the environment. A Capitalism that, when embedded in strong systems of regulation, has proven effective in generating unprecedented levels of wealth. However, unfettered capitalism will produce socially disastrous outcomes. We believe that capitalism has to serve the public, not the other way around. We therefore support a social market economy, that is, a capitalist system with strong controls to ensure social justice.

We believe in a strong public system in areas such as natural resources, and in the provision of services such as health care, transportation, and utilities. A strong public system is not only desirable in terms of accessibility to all and social justice, but will also serve to stimulate the economy.


Public Transport

Public transport should *be* public; we support the nationalization of railways, bus systems and subways to reduce consumer costs and make public transport more widely accessible, provided these measures are financially feasible. We should also encourage public transportation as much as possible, by keeping user costs low and subsidizing senior citizens, students and the unemployed.

We also belive public transportation infrastructure, must be modernazed so, that it employs modern and more clean ways of transportation.


Crime and punishement

We do not believe in incarceration with the sole objective of punishing the perpetrator. We believe encarsenation should be a way to protect the society from that individuals until they are rehabilitated to live in the Eutopian society. So we support a reform of the current system. Therefore we strongly oppose the death penalty.

We support the decriminalization of soft drugs such as marihuana, but oppose the decriminalization of hard drugs. The goal of a national drug policy should be to punish those who earn a livelihood from selling hard drugs, not to punish those who use them. In order to reduce the criminal potential associated with the drug market, the state should have the monopoly of the cannabis market. Privatization of this sector may be considered in the future if such a step is necessary or beneficial.


Terrorism

Eutopia needs strict ant-terrorist laws to protect its citizens and democratic institutions, and it must have a well-trained and well-equipped anti-terrorist service to achieve these gaols.

We must do all we can to eliminate local terrorist acts, but must take care not to do so at the cost of civil liberties. Care must also be taken in deciding who is and is not to be considered a terrorist.


Immigration and citizenship

Any bona fide refugee must be granted unconditional asylum; they should be allowed to participate in the labour market. Prospective immigrants (permanent residents) should be able to communicate in at least one of the three major languages at the time of entry.

Applicants for citizenship must be permanent residents, must have resided in Eutopia for at least three years out of the four years preceding their application and must have basic communication skills in at least two of the three major languages.

The state should provide programmes which allow permanent residents to integrate into Eutopian society and acquire the skills necessary to apply for citizenship if they so desire.


Federalism

A complete centralisation doesn't seem advisable to us. We believe the regions and cities should get autonomy on all issues that they can handle themselves, but the government should be in control of all major areas of domestic policy.


Republic

We belive Democracy is the only know way to govern a country so we stronglly believe the Republic as the only Fully democratic way to govern Eutopia.



Same sex rights

We strongly support equal rights and status for same sex couples in their relation to the state. This includes the right to a civil union.


Abortion

We support the right of mothers to choose, though abortion should generally not be available beyond the first three months. Parents should be provided with counselling to help them make an informed decision. In cases where the continuation of a pregnancy poses a risk to the mother's health, abortion should be available throughout the pregnancy.


Health care

We believe it is important to have some form of government organised healthcare to ensure everyone has access to basic treatment. Funds should be used moderately, and additional treatment cost paid by the patient should be mildly linked to wealth level.


Welfare

All individuals and groups are shaped by society and shape society in turn. Our fates are bound together; hence we have an obligation to society. In particular, those who benefit from the current organization of society have an obligation to protect the weaker members of society, and to prevent poverty, destitution, or the marginalization of groups or individuals.

The workforce and consumers must be protected through strict enforcement of economic regulations, a fair distribution of economic costs and the cost of government, and state control over sensitive sectors of the economy.

The effectiveness of labour in representing and protecting the interests of employees must be safeguarded. At the same time, society has an obligation to protect the unemployed and those members of society who are not able to fully and equally participate in the labour market.

We believe all Eutopians have a right to work, and all Eutopians who are able to do so should work in order to contribute to our society according to their means. However, due to the dynamics of the market, workers may at times be deemed redundant by employers. Employers and employees alike are responsible for ensuring that those who do lose work (and their families) do not face destitution by contributing funds to a government-run insurance programme. Government should also fund compensation and welfare programmes.


Environment

The environment is the foundation of our society, economy and way of life; its protection must be one of our primary goals, both for its intrinsic and instrumental value. Eutopia must give priority to sustainable development, the development of environmentally friendly technologies and the replacement of environmentally detrimental ones. We further need to renew our energy system in order to reduce the amount of pollution it produces, and to defend our forests and wildlife.


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Members -> Jonh Kenny ( I Killed Kenny )

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Unionist Initiative

"Eutopia first"

During the last few years our beloved Nation suffered from many great transformation.
First of all the fall of the Monarchy, and the much welcomed transfer of power to the Eutopian People.
Then the turmoil of many governments, often without the will and the dedication needed to guide the Nation.
Finally, and most important, the secession of our two southern provinces, with the government not able to stop the rebellion in time and later trying a pathetic armed response in wich the brave Eutopian soldiers didn't want to take part.

These events led to the decay and fragmentation of our beloved Island.
It's time to turn back the pages.
We, the Unionist Initiative, want to take Eutopia back to Unity and Prosperity.


Issues:
Foreign Affairs:
Eutopia should strongly oppose the neo-colonialist acts of European nations like Spain and France, willing to expand their influence to Eutopian latinos and french people.
On the other side of the atlantic, Eutopia should strenghten its bonds to USA and its Allies (such as UK), with the purpose of enforcing the rightful claims on the Separatists provinces.
The new seccessionist states created on Eutopia soil must be diplomatically pushed to reconsider theit positions, and eventually their re-incorporation into our Nation.
Bermuda territory should become a part of Eutopia, as established on rightful and legal treaties before. If the full union is not possible, the territory should be placed under joint control of UK and Eutopia, and transformed into a free territory for both nations.

Government:

For the Unionist Initiative goverment should be: one, strong and democratic.
The only Government we want is resident in Eutopia City and responsible of the control of all Eutopian Island and surrounging territories.
lLocal privileges should be reduced in order to create a more equalitarian situation in all of our Nation.
This government should be led by a President with extended powers over public order and security, over the review of laws and over foreign policies.
Nonetheless the power is exclusively in the People, and in them it must stay. The President must be chosen by the people, and approved by them in periodic public referenda to extend his place in charge.

Military:
Eutopia needs a stronger military, more equipped and more modern, to face the growing menaces of modern world and to guard the unrightful borders created with the Separatists Provinces. In this vital role a much closer friendship with the United States could be very useful to get equipment and modern armaments (and why not, even training) at a low cost.

Social Rights:
Every Eutopian Citizen from the day of his birth has unalienable rights and duties. If the Government ensures satisfactory life standards and preserves civil rights, the Citizen will be more than happy to fulfill his duties to the Nation.
Abortion, same sex marriage and such great dilemmas should be decided by direct people's vote via referendum, not by the government.

Welfare State, Education and Healthcare:
The Nation should care for its citizen, for the Nation is theirs.
Welfare State should be expanded, to ensure equal possibilities to all the Citizens, wealthy and poor.
Education should be compulsory until High School, to form the new generations at best. More emphasis should be placed on National pride and Eutopian history, to forge the young People as Eutopians before that English, French or Spanish descendants.

Economy:
The main goal of the Government in this field should the promotion of free enterprise and industry. The laws in the field should be made to help the entrepreneurs who respects laws and to punish as hard as possible those who don't.
The unions of workers should be controlled, to avoid the abuse of strikes that can cripple our industries.


* * * *​

Spokesman: Prof. Leonard Schneider

Members:
Leonard Schneider (OOC:Busco)
 
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Prof. Schneider, your party platform is similar to that of the EUF. Perhaps you'd take a look at our platform and consider joining our team? There are some policy difference, but such matters can be discussed. We don't want to splinter the vote into too many pieces, after all.
 

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Byakhiam said:
"Point out somebody to protect the island from. 50 men with tasers are perfectly enough to protect us from wandering sea birds and other oh so dangerous wildlife. Certainly policemen should have guns in store somewhere, but with good gun control laws, there would not be a need to carry them around on regular duty. If some loony goes psycho, certainly police should have heavier equipment to use then, but if the psycho is not equipped with several deadly weapons he has the right to own, it certainly reduces the amount of dead people then too."

Always expect what is 'impossible'. If criminals cannot procure weapons here, they will just use the black market, or buy them abroad.
 

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At that moment Lt. Commander Henry Jan Tulp entered the Townshall. He was wearing a obviously not new uniform and his left arm prothese was one of functionality instead of one that tried to maskade his situation. He walked to Tilly and said:

"Mr. Tilly, I have heard that you are planning to start a organisation which has as goal to peacefully unite Eutopia once and again. If that is true I would like to know if I can be part of it. Furthermore" and he said this loudly sothat everyone could hear it "The Seperatists have taken control of most of our navy. They took our two carriers, all four destroyers, six oberon and two upholder submarines aswell as five minesweepers, three Perry frigates and two Knox Frigates. Furthermore they took all the naval facilities including the Naval HQ at Buen Puerto. Something must be done to get compensation or our vessels back."
 

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Tilly looks a little taken aback at Tulp's interest, but he nevertheless extends his hand and shakes the naval officer's.

"Of course you're welcome, Commander. I'm sure it will further the cause greatly if even our nation's military officers advocate a peaceful solution."
 

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"Sir, it would be betraying my principles if I would advocate unneeded violence against fellow Eutopians."
 

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After hearing the famous Mr. Marine and Mr. Garibaldi joining the United Royalist bandwagon, a Catholic Eutopian from St. Brendan felt the need to speak up as well.

"This PURE movement that you speak of, Mr. Johanssen, Its platform best matches my own beliefs. I would be honored to assist you fine gentlemen."
 

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I wish the members of P.U.R.E. good luck. I must regretabley decline to join however as there are a few points of argument I have which will conlfict with your platform. Again, I wish you good luck, and I offer to sell you the ownership of The Regal if you wish to use it (and its current reader base) as a party publication.

I would also like to announce that in the coming days (tonight or later) I will be re-establishing the Eutopian Royalist Organization as a non-partisan organization for monarchists.
 
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I wish the members of P.U.R.E. good luck. I must regretabley decline to join however as there are a few points of argument I have which will conlfict with your platform. Again, I wish you good luck, and I offer to sell you the ownership of The Regal if you wish to use it (and its current reader base) as a party publication.

I would also like to announce that in the coming days (tonight or later) I will be re-establishing the Eutopian Royalist Organization as a non-partisan organization for monarchists.

Johanssen replied.

"I am honored that you would be willing to sell the publication. I understand your differences, and although I think that the United Royalist movement is a broad tent, and that the platform is not something that must be agreed with completely, I respect your decision. Although you will not join the PURE, I believe that, as a Monarchist, you are pure at heart, pardon the pun."
 

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Glasser stands there for a moment. Professor Kenny managed to insult him not once but twice and yet still ended with an appeal to join the P4P.

"But surely we are talking of different times now then when the RD was running. The leader of my party is a matter of great concern to me as I over extended myself during my time at the helm of the DA and have no interests in once again leading a party. This was borne out the Presidency when I was happy to let AG O'Floinn run the party. Being the leader of a major party requires sacrafices for the greater good and having a leader who knows this is quite important for me.

"More importantly, though, this is a different time. Our country has fractured at the seems. This current term we have seen what happens when disaster strikes and there is a political neophyte at the helm: nothing or worse. It seems to me that we need experience now, not more untested leaders. I sincerely thank you for your time Professor, and hope that my words have not offended you. I hope your party will soon be recongized by the CRO, because I do sincerely agree with much of your platform, but for now I will look at all options before deciding anything."

-Dr. Jonathan Glasser


Jonh Continued

"Doctor, I'm very sad to see that you do not desiere to enter the P4P because of *my* experiance, but as you said you agree with much of our platform, when I realise that I became even more disapointed with myself for abandoning the politics, even if the cause was the death of my father*" Kenny rested for a moment
"And sincerly I would not like to meet you in the other side of politics being you my political adversary. I sincerely believe that both the P4P and Eutopia will lose if you decied not to join the party." He thought before speaking, but basicly that was the true reason Glasser didn't want to join his party "Because of *me*"

Jonh made a sad face, he had just learned a dificult lesson in politics, the new guys will always be looked other ways until they are no longer newbies

~Jonh Kenny

EDIT: *After re-reading I thought that you may find I used some info from the OOC PM... if you think so, simply exclude that part from what JK said :)
 
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After hearing the famous Mr. Marine and Mr. Garibaldi joining the United Royalist bandwagon, a Catholic Eutopian from St. Brendan felt the need to speak up as well.

"This PURE movement that you speak of, Mr. Johanssen, Its platform best matches my own beliefs. I would be honored to assist you fine gentlemen."

Johanssen was overjoyed to see his old friend Garibaldi. He was also very happy to see some new faces that were sympathetic to the platform and willing to join the PURE, which could be viewed as simply a continuation of the Reactionary Party for the New Republic and the trying times that Eutopia had been seeing.

"Mr. O'Brien, I too am honored. I am honored by your offer of assistance. I say the same to you, Mr. Marine, and of course to my old friend Antonio. Whatever differences we may have, I am sure we can agree that ever since the ending of the monarchy, Eutopia has been in a decline, and ever since the term of President Vasco, Eutopia has been in the gutter, and things only continue to worsen. May our common values be our strength, and lead us, and our people to a new beginning in the future."
 
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Byakhiam said:
Young man listens to Kenny and then replies:

"Well, I don't think that most terrorists are similiar to those psychos that go to shoot people just because they find them irritating. We don't call lonely nut shooter terrorist. Real terrorists have a cause, because people don't get together and start bombing places for fun. If we are a free democracy, people will realize that they get their views out in the open much better by writing into newspapers and other peaceful means. Real terrorists are desperate people and desperation doesn't form from nothing. We should allow extermists to express their opinions freely, so that they can see for themselves that most people don't agree with them. If we just censor them, the extermists just feel prejudiced and as it goes on long enough, they'll get desperate.

Also, if it would be harder to get all kinds of weapons, then it would be easier for police to keep track of large quanities of weapons moving around. If it's completely ok to move a big crate of shotguns around, anybody with the wealth for it could fund a coup. That's why if only police can have shotguns, all shotguns will draw attention from lawful citizens, which will help the police to crack down on illegal ones."

Jonh Kenny replys

"But Mr. Rüdiger, If Eutopia becames the perfect place, terrorrism may attack us because of that, terrorrist would make up thing to attack us, because of our position of wealth and democracy. That is what I believe on, but of cource the P4P will try to find solutions to all issues so that no person in Eutopia believes that terrorrism is the only way to pass there words" Jonh Waited for a moment before adressing the other issue

"And yes I belive in a good Gun-control law, so that fire-weapons are not freely selled in Eutopia, I do not belive that everyone having a fire-weapon will help fighting crime"

Jonh waited for a reply

~Jonh Kenny
 

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Green_alien said:
Hmm could I join PURE party gentleman?

Sorry mr. Kenny but this programme is more appealing to me. Eutopia needs a strong goverment.

Sorry.

Jonh was very suprised

"Well mr. Marine if the PURE party is appeling to you, I don't see how could the P4P ever be appeling to you becuse I can say that PURE is exacly the oposite of the P4P...
Even so I wish you luck or at least that you make your mind about your ideology..." One could clearly see that Jonh was not very happy

He waited to see if Marine had anything to say

~Jonh Kenny
 
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I Killed Kenny said:
Jonh was very suprised

"Well mr. Marine if the PURE party is appeling to you, I don't see how could the P4P ever be appeling to you becuse I can say that PURE is exacly the oposite of the P4P...
Even so I wish you luck or at least that you make your mind about your ideology..." One could clearly see that Jonh was not very happy

He waited to see if Marine had anything to say

~Jonh Kenny
Hearing this, Johanssen responded with a quip of his own.

"You are correct, Mr. Kenny. the PURE and the P4P have little in common. We wish to bring Eutopia back to the days of Unity, Pride, Stability, and Peace. You wish to further divide us all. You, like another politician whose surname was Kenny, although supposedly unrelated, advocate further decay of our great Island. Private gun ownership is essential when the government is unstable and two break-away states, as well as terrorists and the United States in Farpoint are able to threaten our sovereignty. You are suggesting that the people of Eutopia are unfit to protect themselves, while the truth is the government is unfit to protect them."
 
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