Townhall

[Estonianzulu]

To which faith do you belong sir? I do not believe Eutopia has any racial profiling. But if it exists we will do everything in our power to deal with it. Eutopia, as you are well aware, is a diverse land. Topans (who are of Islamic faith), and Norse pagans are treated fairly and evenly with all other religious and ethnic groups. If there is an organization or branch of the government acting otherwise please help us fight it.

 

[unmerged(31994)]

I am a Topan Sir, however, how should I know which branch works against me? I am a normal denzien in the street, however, my brothers and I are fed up with this treatment in Airports, were begining to believe that Eutopia is part of the USA.
However, I wish that the government would well define the location of terrorists in the Anti terror Bill or better yet to reconstruct it.
I am this close to leave Eutopia if this treatment continues, you should reconsider teaching your officers and military men that just because a man has an Arab name, dosent nessicarily mean hes going to come up and blow people.
I am demanding more protection for the Islamic minority in the island, and a "Hate Crime" bill, and an Anti terror bill that needs to be rectified.

 

[Estonianzulu]

I was unaware that such acts were occuring. But now that they have been brought to my attention I will take a deeper look and see what I can uncover.

 

[unmerged(1522)]

To the Topan gentleman: good sir, it's unfortunately hard for us to lend credence to your accusations if you refuse to clarify which specific laws and incidents you are referring to. Most of us are a bit mystified what "Anti Terror Bill" you speak of. Also, you must forgive our surprise at your accusations: there have been no reports that Topans, Arabs or Muslims have been unduly detained at UPE airports, or unduly kept from travelling. Neither have there been reports of incidents where the military attacked citizens based on their faith. And I've never heard that Topans, Arabs and Muslims are barred from attending "normal" schools, or that anyone is prevented from "displaying" their faith.

- TMV St. James, Viscount of Dunwich

 

[Deaghaidh]

Unnoticed in the commotion, someone leaves a pile of pamphlets lying on the table

The Grand Eutopian Walrus Party!

Walrus Party Founder, the Right Honorable Lord Phineas Q Barnaby IV

Why vote Walrus for President? Why, R.H.L. Phineas:
*Has relentlessly defended Eutopia against its ancient enemy, shellfish
* Want to talk family values? In his 20 year career at Aqualand Animal Experience has fathered 14 pups by three different cows, all of whom grew into upright, moral Walrii.
* Supports ending discrimination against non-humans and replacing it with discrimination towards non-mammals
* Lives on an enviornmentally friendly ice floe
* Has the layer of thick, insulating blubber Eutopia needs to restore its place in the world
* Can consume over four thousand clams in one day, more than twice most Presidential candidates

 

[I Killed Kenny]

Jonh Kenny starts laughing when he reads the panflets

 

[unmerged(4271)]

To the Topan gentleman: good sir, it's unfortunately hard for us to lend credence to your accusations if you refuse to clarify which specific laws and incidents you are referring to. Most of us are a bit mystified what "Anti Terror Bill" you speak of. Also, you must forgive our surprise at your accusations: there have been no reports that Topans, Arabs or Muslims have been unduly detained at UPE airports, or unduly kept from travelling. Neither have there been reports of incidents where the military attacked citizens based on their faith. And I've never heard that Topans, Arabs and Muslims are barred from attending "normal" schools, or that anyone is prevented from "displaying" their faith.

- TMV St. James, Viscount of Dunwich

OOC: They are not. Thanks for trying to RP this Mel, but we need to set this straight.

Calipah - Your character is free to say these things, but they would be lies. You cannot make up laws or make up treatment by government officials. Players cannot control NPCs, or make these things up, without approval by a GM as an Event.

Please read the READ ME Thread to review the rules.

Thanks.

- heagarty
GM Events.

 

[unmerged(27050)]

*Bob takes a pamphlet and mails it to The Scuttlebutt*

 

[unmerged(1522)]

OOC: They are not. Thanks for trying to RP this Mel, but we need to set this straight.

OOC: Well, I was planning to follow this up with a clarifying pm, but I see that has already been taken care of.

 

[Voshkod]

Mr. Napier, I hope that some of my response to Mr. Kenny addresses some of your question. Vice President Vilms has done an admirable job of answering more of it.

President Glasser, Vice President Vilms, you have more than answered my questions. My fear, and I feel it a just one, was that the UP expected to return to power due to their accomplishments alone. I see that the UP members have experienced the same anguish as the rest of us over the collapse of Eutopia. Perhaps the people who lived through it, worked through it, tried to stop it, are the people we need at the helm today.

But perhaps not. But you have relieved my concerns that this was simply an attempt by the "old boys" to keep their toys. Thank you both.

 

[Craig Ashley]

I'm pleased to see you've reached that conclusion, Mr. Napier. I would even go so far as to say that the fact that we have all come together, despite our past differences, shows the weight and severity of the situation Eutopia faces. We aren't the Old Guard, clinging to the past. We want to move Eutopia forward, into a new future.

 

[Sterkarm]

I hereby announce my candidacy for President for Term 9, with the support of the UEF , the first party under the September Constitution. Now, my friends, let us step away from communism under the P4P, away from senseless, hopeless, idealism of the UP, and towards the sensibility and ambition of the UEF. Forward, my fellow Eutopians, for your freedom and for ours!

 

[Amric]

Senseless and hopeless idealism of the UP? Really? Is it wrong to give people hope? Is it wrong to be idealistic? Is it wrong to band together across ideology to help Eutopia? I find that hard to imagine, really I do!

Is it wrong to show how the UP can help Eutopia get back on her feet? Is it senseless to offer hope to a populace who have been largely ignored by the Gall/Grant government? Setting up a commission to decide what the new Eutopian flag should look like is NOT all that active, in my opinion.

The UP has answers. The UP has come together because we have seen, FIRSTHAND, what happens when ideology gets in the way of progress and a proactive responsive government. The bitter rivalry between right and left, and both against the center is what helped doom FREE to fail when the people were betrayed by the ESRP in term 7.

The UP is determined to show how ideology MUST be submerged for the good of the nation. Regardless of party politics, in spite of ideology Eutopia MUST move forward and the many problems she has must be ADDRESSED in a reasoned, rational manner that is beneficial to the vast majority of Eutopians.

 

[Sterkarm]

Possibly ideology might be able to be suppressed, IF it was not attempted by such massive egotists! Your party is made up of fallen giants, and your kind CAUSED our current problems! Do we want to re-elect people who think they can fix the problems they themselves have caused! NO! We must ensure that these fallen giants are not allowed to put their foot in the door, otherwise they will ruin us all, ONCE AGAIN! Gentlemen, you have a choice, either elect the same people who caused the problem in order to have the same thing happen again or you can elect a new face to the government who will fix the problems!

Also, Mr. Al'Aeshir, there is no doubt that your party's egos will tear it apart. Should you win the elections, the other members in your party will surely betray you and tear you down... so, I ask of all the voters, do you want a government that, while promising to unite, will fight amongst itself, trying to ensure that they remain the dictators of Eutopia or a government that will rebuild the nation and prepare it for future administrations?

 

[Deaghaidh]

The UP is determined to show how ideology MUST be submerged for the good of the nation.

Pinniped for Progress the Right Honorable Lord Phineas Q Barnaby IV
Submerged? Noone knows more about submerging than the Walrus Party. Our party chairman and Presidential candidate spends two thirds of his life under water, buring Eutopias problems in the pebbly sand of the ocean floor, while also efficently searching for shellfish threats with his whiskers. Can any of the ex-Presidents' mustaches find their food for them? Why, he can spend thirty minutes at a time underwater- several times longer than any politican in Eutopian history.

 

[Amric]

I think perhaps you ought to peruse old public records a bit more closely. The people involved with the currenty Unity Party were very capable of working together. I believe you have them and myself confused with the old ESRP which was run by Josephus Sergei and Bram Borgman. They and certain others were far more culpable for the failures of the past then the people in the Unity Party.

Giant egos? John O'Floinn is one of the most down to earth people you'd ever meet. So is Dr. Glasser. Konstanin Vilms, while a monarchist, has always been a very cordial and likeable person. Fully capable and willing to work with those of other ideologies. Jake Langley worked hard with ALL parties to try and get things done. Hawkton Tilly with a giant ego? Well he is a defense attorney, but still a very blue collar man. As a former MILE and VP he worked with everyone, regardless of party affiliation.

You try to confuse the voters by stating former Presidents and Vice Presidents are fully culpable for what has happened to Eutopia. Why not point the finger, since you are so eager to do so, at the real culprits? The former national assembly. They were the obstructionists to getting things done. Not former Presidents and Vice Presidents.

But I shall move on to other things. I have things to do right now...

<OOC: it's very late here and I am off to bed...>

 

[Sterkarm]

While your fellow UP members may pretend to be humble, it is quite obvious that they believe only they themselves can fix any problems, and they don't care about anyone else's ideas, certainly not the public's.

 

[unmerged(1522)]

Is it wrong to show how the UP can help Eutopia get back on her feet? Is it senseless to offer hope to a populace who have been largely ignored by the Gall/Grant government? Setting up a commission to decide what the new Eutopian flag should look like is NOT all that active, in my opinion.

Mr. Al'Aeshir, with all due respect, your portrayal of the Grant-administration seems rather misleading. Few people would defend the record of President Gall, but claims that President Grant has not been active and has ignored the public strike me as questionable. Both claims are true of the Gall-Presidency, but lumping President Grant together with his predecessor is inaccurate at best. Establishing a flag commission is hardly the most notable action the Grant-administration has taken.

Was it not President Grant who prevented the secession of two further provinces by sacrificing his personal beliefs for the good of Eutopia? An act which, based on your rhetoric, I would expect you to admire. Was it not President Grant who achieved the radical restructuring of Eutopian government that has "offered us hope"?

I find your assessment of President Grant all the more surprising considering the fact that his is an administration that has actually *practiced* the cross-ideological gospel that the UP preaches.

- TMV St. James, Viscount of Dunwich

 

[Archeolooginspe]

I've got some questions to all parties.

What's your stand on:

-Drugs
-Same Sex Relations
-Drinking Age
-The Role of the Anglican Church (now the biggest denomination IIRC of UPE) on the Island

 

[I Killed Kenny]

I've got some questions to all parties.

What's your stand on:

-Drugs
-Same Sex Relations
-Drinking Age
-The Role of the Anglican Church (now the biggest denomination IIRC of UPE) on the Island

Speaking to the unknown man

If you let me quote the party for Progress Platform

"We support the decriminalization of soft drugs such as marihuana, but oppose the decriminalization of hard drugs. The goal of a national drug policy should be to punish those who earn a livelihood from selling hard drugs, not to punish those who use them. In order to reduce the criminal potential associated with the drug market, the state should have the monopoly of the cannabis market. Privatization of this sector may be considered in the future if such a step is necessary or beneficial."

About the same sex rrights, "We strongly support equal rights and status for same sex couples in their relation to the state. This includes the right to a civil union."

"The P4P did not started working on the drinking age, issue [OOC: we dont' even know what the driking age is now, IF we have one... /]

And we believe the church, in this case the Anglican Church, have a very important position in Eutopia but it must be out of the goverment, Faith and Goverment should be keeped seperated."

~Jonh Kenny