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Furthermore I suggest that we build a mock village/city for our forces to train in.
 

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I agree entirely, Commander. One of the UP's first diplomatic efforts will be to arrange for mutual defense agreements between our new neighbors and ourselves. Everyone benefits from such an arrangement -- we get the benefits of our lost equipment without having to raise tensions by trying to get it back, our neighbors gain the benefits of our new equipment without feeling threatened by it, and it's a good first step toward reunification.
 

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Deaghaidh said:
Why wouldn't they? We're no concievable threat to Japan, nor a rival in any of their spheres of interest, and it'd be good for their economy.


"I don't think they would because they would like to keep the technological edge, on the rest of the world... And keep their secrets..."

~Jonh Kenny
 

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A citizen comes up and screams "STOP THESE DAMN TERROR LAWs! I am being treated as a criminal or something because of my faith! my mosque was attacked, my kids were "checked" for arsenal and I missed over 6 flights because of these damn regulations! I demand that they are lifted!"
 

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I must raise a question that was left open by the last governments, the creation of a proper anti-terrorism unit, though the Marines (of wich i'm proud of being a former one) until now was used for that purpose, i think we should devote some resources on that.
 

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the ones implanted by the decadent governments of Eutopia! where the army attacks people for their faiths and not by their atitudes. I am disgusted as a citizen of this treatment.!
 

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Barbarians! I knew it! behind all this corruption and decadency and slander! the only thing you care about is the green in your pockets and empowering your filthy armies! you have no sympathy to the suffering citizen, You...You Criminals you!You tax us and then you beat us to get even more taxes!
No! No No no! we the religious minorties wont stand up for this any longer!
 

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Sir please, if you could calm down and quote that Terror Law and the incidents you describe from OFFFICIAL documents then we might be able to clear this up.
 

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Busco said:
I must raise a question that was left open by the last governments, the creation of a proper anti-terrorism unit, though the Marines (of wich i'm proud of being a former one) until now was used for that purpose, i think we should devote some resources on that.


The government did create SAW, and we at the UP plan on looking into how effective SAW is at completing its mission and doing its job. If changes for better can be made, we intend on discovering, with the help of the up and coming politicians, what exactly we can do to make the anti-terror units in Eutopia work better.
 

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*he stomps the floor several times and speaks in a foriegn language, obviously not giving any attention to the official* Liers! I knew it I knew it! You decadent fat aristocrats will pay for the humiliation you brought my family! and our honor and our faith! Im not going to accept this any longer!I will revolt!
 

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Estonianzulu said:
The government did create SAW, and we at the UP plan on looking into how effective SAW is at completing its mission and doing its job.

In addition, the Grant government produced CIS as a counter-terrorism organ. While having such an independent organization is a step in the right direction, it is imperative that such a unit be composed of the best-trained and best-equipped men and women in Eutopia's defense forces. The Unity Party would like to assure that the best line infantry are hand-selected for this critical duty and given the finest in counter-terrorism equipment to guarantee that terror in Eutopia becomes a thing of the past.
 

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Calipah said:
*he stomps the floor several times and speaks in a foriegn language, obviously not giving any attention to the official* Liers! I knew it I knew it! You decadent fat aristocrats will pay for the humiliation you brought my family! and our honor and our faith! Im not going to accept this any longer!I will revolt!

Sir, please CALM DOWN! What specific laws?!? :confused:
 

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HOW THE HELL SHOULD I KNOW? WHEN I go into an airport, that damn Eutopian dosent allow me into the airplane for "security" my KIDS ARENT ALLOWED TO RIDE PLANES, ATTEND NORMAL SCHOOLS OR DIPLAY THEIR FAITH.....WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?
 

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I Killed Kenny said:
"I don't think they would because they would like to keep the technological edge, on the rest of the world... And keep their secrets..."

~Jonh Kenny

I find it unlikely they'll let us build them ourselves, but why wouldn't they sell them to us? I think the Japanese are less interested in military hegemony than they are in getting back to their old economic powerhouse days.

Really the same arguement could be made for the Isrealis or French or any other nation producing advanced military equipment and exporting it, but for a lot of countries this is a good way to advance both their economy and their standing in the world (it helps to be known for top-flight weapons). Though obviously you'd not sell the "bleeding edge" tech (the US ain't selling stealth to nobody).

I think in 10 or 20 years Eutopia could become an arms supplier to the world (though we'd need some control so we don't wind up fighting our own tech), as ENDTECH can produce world-class gear given time and money (which might be better spent buying the tank or helicopter, however). In the meantime we'll have to buy from somebody. Preferably the rights to build it domestically but if not then imports will have to do.

As for anti-terrorism laws, I'm not familiar with Eutopias laws, but AFAIK there haven't been many, if any, acts commited by Arab Muslims in Eutopia, so if people are harassing/profiling local arabs then I'd say that smells fishie. Our terrorists have been political, either Communist (Most Enlightened Order of the Revolution), Right-wing (National Eutopian Republican Army) or anarchist anti-government & anti-americans (Children of the Revolution), just plain crazy (Origami Lion Bomber) or even within the Armed Forces (Hartwell and Smith). I can personally attest that there were no Arabs at CORE's last stand, though there were quite a few Muslims most were on our side. So if people are harassing muslim Eutopians then I say lets get the police involved and get to the bottom of it.

We do have anti-terror laws, which we need because we've had a terrorist problem, but ethnic/religous profiling doesn't help anything. But our terrorism laws aren't as draconian as Britains or the US's Patriot Act, IMHO

What Eutopia needs is a lobby group or organization dedicated to watchdoging infringements on the constitutional rights of ALL citizens, including religious and ethnic minorities. I wouldn't want to lead such an organization but I'd support it, does anyone want to run with that idea?

If such a group was founded, sir, I think you should take your case to them and see if you have any legal recourse, or even if you can challenge the laws Constitutionality in court. They might be able to raise money for the effort.
 

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What about the Anti Terror Bill or the Commision on Terror hmmmmm? I demand more guidlines to what is defined as a terrorist or not, to proclaim someone as boradly a terrorist only causes more damage to us citizens.
Forgive me for that outburst but I cant help seeing this continue.
 
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