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Austria is moderately-difficult, I can attest to that. :)

Austria is surrounded with hateful enemies from the north, south, east and west.

Plus, Austria is inherently an arch-enemy of several powerful nations who have some superb leaders: France, Prussia, Brandenburg, Venice, Turkey.

This is exactly why Austria is very fun to play! :) It's fun because you feel that you are playing the underdog among the "major" powers. You have to use tons of diplomacy just to avoid wars you don't want. By the mid-1600s, things are much better because you finally receive tons of superb generals who can kick everyone's butt. Even the French. :)
 

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Portugal isn't difficult to play. Most of the time, Portugal is an economic leader because it just goes for colonization and trade, this it avoids making enemies.

No enemies = no wars = lots of time for economic expansion

The only time Portugal sucks is....when you try to play Portugal as a war-monger nation. Guess what? It's not a good land battle nation. Even Spain with her mediocre land forces can capture all three Portuguese core provinces easily. Even tiny Navarra has better warriors than Portugal. ;)
 

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Hardest major would probably be England I think- they don't seem to have as much VP potential as the others........

Austria is not very hard in 2.2 IGC, I'll have to try in IGC 2.3- Austria has a huge potential for diplo-annexation, and it has a good oppurtunity to rack up tons of VPs by force-converting the North Germans to Catholicism when it's counter-reformation time. What enabled me to kick Turkish Ass in my game with it was an alliance with Poland. At first I moved to diplo-annex as much as possible, then I allied with POland, and Turkey apparently has trouble when fighting both Austria and Poland at the same time.

France is easy providing you play it right, if you play bad it is easy for Spain to beat you. Spain is your key-enemy, and the key to the Franco-Spanish wars is the minors in west Germany and Italy. In my first game as France I ignored my minor allies and concentrated on getting land from Spain. In spite of siezing Flanders early, winning most wars with Spain, annexing the Netherlands, and annexing the Aztecs, Spain dominated Italy and got huge land in west Germany, and had minor support, and eventually got the upper hand. Next time around I supoprted my minors, and tried to annex any minor foolish enough to ally with Spain. Also stole the Spanish map and siezed Andalusia, annexed the Axtecs, and stopped early because it was clear I was kicking too much ass and I would clearly win....

Portugal- Portugal is very much winnable. They key is to annex the Incas early, thus giving your dirt poor country some need economic base. Move into Asia, put up a bunch of trading posts- especially in India, grab everything there so that nobody else can go there. Then get as many colonies in India as possible- those colonies typically give $20 taxation income and $40 trade income- with that you can get the economic VPs to win, especially if you manage to annex any Indian countries.

I am playing Poland right now, and it doesn't seem to hard. I am playing very agressivley agaisnt Russia, who I see as my greatest security threat. I attacked them early when they first moved Against Kazan, then annexed Pskov and siezed Novgorod. I've held a policy of opposing them whenever they try to annex a Khanate- though sadly they still grabbed Kazan. I also allied with Sweeden to help me against Russia. I think I have siezed 5 provinces from Russia now, and hopefully I can deny them their edge and keep stealing land from them-perhaps I can eventually annex them. I also allied with Austria an Bohemia(the latter will soon be diplo-annexed by the former just as Hungary was). This should help against Prussia(playing United Prussia mode for more of a chalenge), who sadly managed to sieze Silesia. Hopefully the Austro-Polish alliance will stop threats from Turkey and the Protestants of Northern Germany and the Baltic, and for now I seem to have a strong upper hand over Russia.

The problem is, even though Poland is pretty secure, it'll be hard beating Spain in VPs.


As for Minors- I strongly reccomend the Mamelukes if you are up for a challenge, as them I managed to conquer all of North Africa except Tangiers, and sized all of the Middle East and some land in Greece as well. VERY hard getting the upper-hand over the Turks at first though, who you will lose land to at the start.

Also try Venice, one of the most fun countries. Brandenburg is also an awesome country, huge diplo-annex potential...
 

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Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Hardest major would probably be England I think- they don't seem to have as much VP potential as the others........

With their explorers, colonists and relative sedurity I'd have said exactly the opposite-it's a bad game where the big North American, Indian and East Indies CoTs aren't in their hands at the least when played by a human.

Last three times I've played England I've been ahead of Spain within the first decade or so and never looked back.
 

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protestand France

I hear rumours that they kick ass..
But sadly each time they have tried...
Spain 'convinced' to stay on the true path.
After a few squabbles :D
Also after their stab was reduced some :D
Nobody wants to play France now though :(
 
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heh just tried something funny with turkey

wait, Dow on Hungary (austria& bohemia (north of austria joins)
invade: assoult-annex hungary, and bohemia
take most of austrias provices,
demand Styria(gold) and one connecting.(=2) This will cripple them forever...

The rest should be easy considering persias civil war& unrest
feel free to take advantage.


With russia i once military annexed P-L in year 1501
just invaded with several 30.000+ foot& a few cannon armies.
U have to take a few provinces from them first, othervise attrition gets too high in deep south-west..
 

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Turkie

In multiplay the turkish player everytime annexes Venice..
Stupid AI never builds troops or nothing..
And the Turk gets their fleet :p

I remember there was about 500 000 austrian troops on their borders towards 1560...funded by spain of course..
about 1 000 000 Turkish troops faced the austrian though..
Oh..and the turk player also annexes hungary in one go..
easier and who cares about exhaustion anyway..
+5 or 10..hahaha..
constant warfare yay
 

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When I play Turkey my first target is always Venice, annex it with one war, nobody cares. Gives me a decent navy and easy access to Italy and Austria, and I can also go after the western Med and Spain if I want to.

After Venice, annex Marmaluks, then look for badboy wars. The Turkish army is the best in the game at that point.
 

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Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Hardest major would probably be England I think- they don't seem to have as much VP potential as the others........

I have to say that I think they have one of the highest VP potential. You are isolated on an island with good fleet just take scotland and build up a good economy. Ally with somebody who has a good chance to get in a war with Spain other than France (I don't want to spend money on nations that I can't diplo-annex), a good choice would be Navarra wait for Spain to DOW them and then you go for the spanish netherlands which never get defended early in the game. Take that money machine flanders and maybe another province or two. Do turbo protestantism, colonise, become the richest nation in Europe in 40 years, diplo-annex German states and if your really rich go for Denmark. By now Spain has totally killed themselves by picking a fight with either France or Turkey, they go to war for a decade and ruin themselves. By then though you should be far, far, ahead of anyone else.
 

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I wonder which one of these you consider more difficult: Ragusa or Georgia? I've played and lost both, though I did find Georgia a bit easier.
 

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Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
could be- England and Spain were the two majors I haven't played...

Well, that's what happens when you post without actually having tested the idea. I get my highest scores as England, by the way, although that may be a case of a slightly greater interest level in playing one's own country!:D
 

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Hey all!
I'm playing the IGC with Bavaria and I can't seem to be able to annex the Palatinat. The year is 1519, and they have been my vassal since 1494. I have had a military alliance with them for virtually the whole game so far. Even after all this, the game won't even give me the option of trying to annex them. I meet all the requirements too. The "Annex" button simply won't "light up." If anyone knows how to solve this problem, please let me know. Thanks.