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SaxonCamel

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Playing Rome, I took all 3 of Illyria's provinces. I see that I can't annex it nor ask for the capital province (I invaded so I could get horses from the capital, Scodra). Does this mean I must negotiate peace, ask for the other two settlements, wait until truce subsides and invade again? Are peace negotiations limited by the traits of the characters in charge of diplomacy?
 

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Tributaries are more or less EU:R's version of vassals. You don't get control over them other than the tribute payment, but you severly limit their options. A tributary can't colonize, but also can't ally other countries or declare wars. The last 2 only work for humans, though. It seems to be a bug that makes the AI immune to that limit.
 

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There are also mods (cough Total Conquest ;)) that increase the maximum annexation size, allowing you to annex larger countries.

Be careful making a country pay tribute, too, especially if you're a republic. Republics rarely let you end tribute so it becomes very hard to declare war again to annex the country, and there is no diplomatic annexation option like in EU3. So, if you want Scodra's horses, you will need to just demand the two provinces and whatever money you can get from them and declare war later to take the last province. It might also pay to guarantee the country as well, to stop other countries from jumping in and snapping up your target province.

If you're really rich and have high stability, you could also just bite the pilum and declare war straight after the peace deal. I've done this before, if you do it right you will be able to recover your full stability after just a couple of years and is especially useful against large enemy empires: beat them into submission and destroy their armies, sign peace for a few provinces and then declare war again. The enemy army will already be destroyed so it's just a matter of re-capturing the enemy provinces and preventing new armies from being made.
 
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Cheexsta wrote:

There are also mods (cough Total Conquest ) that increase the maximum annexation size, allowing you to annex larger countries.

Be careful making a country pay tribute, too, especially if you're a republic. Republics rarely let you end tribute so it becomes very hard to declare war again to annex the country, and there is no diplomatic annexation option like in EU3. So, if you want Scodra's horses, you will need to just demand the two provinces and whatever money you can get from them and declare war later to take the last province. It might also pay to guarantee the country as well, to stop other countries from jumping in and snapping up your target province.

I play Rome with Lofman's mod and Cheexsta Total Conquest combined. The max annex size is set to 8. I had a terrible time with the diplo-annex option but I believe I fixed it.

With this code it appears to be stable:

Code:
#TCM2.2
#Diploannexation Decision
country_decisions = { 
	diploannex_vassal = {
		potential = {
			NOT = { has_country_flag = annexing_vassal }
			tribute = no
			num_of_vassals = 4
			ally = {
				tribute = yes
				NOT = { num_of_cities = 10 }
				NOT = { has_country_modifier = diploannexation_declined }
				stability = 1
				war = no
			}
		}
		allow = {
			stability = 1
			war = no
			treasury = 50
		}
		
		effect = {
			treasury = -50
			ally = {
				limit = { 
					tribute = yes
					NOT = { num_of_cities = 10 }
					NOT = { has_country_modifier = diploannexation_declined }
				}
				country_event = 10060
			}
			set_country_flag = annexing_vassal
		}
	}
}

This is in decisions/tcp_diploannex.txt.
The decision turns off and on as long as the right conditions are met in both the decisions available bug and in the missions and decisions screen.
It does not go spastic (turning off and on and then disappearing altogether. I have been able to add vassals when the number is not sufficient to make the option available 6 times now with it becoming active again. So far I have successfully annexed 9 vassals.:)

In answer to arabassist; change the _DIP_MAX_ANNEX_SIZE_ in the file defines.txt in the common directory to 8 or something as I mentioned above.

Well, it is not fixed. Started a new game and although it is stable more often than not, it still disappears now and again!
Funny, in the previous game, it worked perfectly for 40 game years (514AUC - 555AUC) and I was able to diplo_annex 11 vassals.
 
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