Tordesillas?

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Are we to assume from the closed thread that the ToT will always be concluded in favour of Portugal and Spain, even if half the Americas have already been colonised by some other Catholic country? And if so, why in the name of God are we being forced to play eighty years of worthless history and not allowed to influence things during it?

 

[celedhring]

I don't know much about the game engine, but Johan suggested that the event is indeed editable. So, yes, it seems that it will happen whoever succeeds in colonization although it seems that this can be remedied. However, nobody has pointed if the event has been itself changed (perhaps allowing powers other than Spain or Portugal).

 

[Owl]

If I can't edit the TofT I'm going to have to edit Spain and Portugal back to the stone age - to coin a phrase...

 

[celedhring]

Originally posted by Owl
If I can't edit the TofT I'm going to have to edit Spain and Portugal back to the stone age - to coin a phrase...

Just convert to Protestantism

And I've been successfully colonized America with many catholic nations having ToT against me. It's a bit harder, but you can succed. Of course, I'd tie its appearance to a successful start of American/Asian colonization (having X o'seas colonies), and since Portugal and Spain (if it forms) are the most favoured for it at the begining of the game, it would happen as it did historically ...if a human player doesn't break havoc as usual

 

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Originally posted by Heyesey
... And if so, why in the name of God are we being forced to play eighty years of worthless history and not allowed to influence things during it?

Perhaps there will be a 1492 scenario so you aren't forced to play those damnable 80 years of worthless history. Good thing they didn't move the start date back further!

 

[BiB]

The thing is Spain and Portugal will in 99% of the cases get there first as they have the historic explorers unlike other nations.

 

[Idiotboy]

Originally posted by BiB
The thing is Spain and Portugal will in 99% of the cases get there first as they have the historic explorers unlike other nations.

But if Spain isn´t formed (an event I think) which nation gets them. Castille perhaps?

 

[celedhring]

Originally posted by Idiotboy


But if Spain isn´t formed (an event I think) which nation gets them. Castille perhaps?

Then I think we'll have a Portugal dominated world. Castille should still have some good colonization rating, however.

 

[Idiotboy]

Originally posted by celedhring


Then I think we'll have a Portugal dominated world. Castille should still have some good colonization rating, however.

I was thinking about the explorers themself, like Columbus. Dosn´t he appear at all if Spain isn´t there?

 

[BiB]

Originally posted by Idiotboy


But if Spain isn´t formed (an event I think) which nation gets them. Castille perhaps?

That's a very low probability.

 

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Originally posted by BiB


That's a very low probability.

BiB -- that wasn't the question. If you aren't going to answer his question, why bother?

 

[BiB]

It answers the question just fine IMO.

IF Spain always forms, it hardly is an issue.

I didn't think I had to explain that leaders of a nation only go to that nation as has been said many times before.

 

[Licou]

Originally posted by Heliumgod


BiB -- that wasn't the question. If you aren't going to answer his question, why bother?

Two words : more posts.

 

[BiB]

Originally posted by Licou


Two words : more posts.

Not an issue.

 

[Yozhik]

Now let me get it straight - which one of these is correct?

a. If the Spanish/Portuguese army attacking a province it "owns" due to ToT defeats the province's army, it gains the province.

b. If the Spanish/Portuguese army attacking a province it "owns" due to ToT takes the province's fortress, it gains the province.

c. The Spanish/Portuguese army gains the province the instant it moves in there, defended or not.

Thanks!

 

[celedhring]

It's c.

(at least in EU1)

 

[unmerged(3440)]

Since the condition of Spain to form is to own Madrid, and the game choses the historical option 85% of the time, Spain will form in 85%of the games

 

[Havard]

Originally posted by celedhring
It's c.

(at least in EU1)

Eh.. no. Its b. It the province is fortified they must take the fortress first.

 

[BiB]

Originally posted by Gorion
Since the condition of Spain to form is to own Madrid, and the game choses the historical option 85% of the time, Spain will form in 85%of the games

It's bigger really. That event can pop up more and 2 nations can accomplish it (being Aragon and Castille). U'll have to play a helluva lot to ever see a game without Spain (or feck it up urself )

 

[celedhring]

Hey, how's the climate in Kendermore Gorion? I didn't know it was so near to Asturias...

Also, something I was thinking about is that it would be good if the "historical rating" could be edited someway so you can have the computer chosing historical options in events say, 50% of the time or 33% for more "free" games.