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PackMan

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What is the purpose of this thread?
Will anyone collect and write events for them or is it simply to see what we are missing while playing DD :p
But seriously, it would be cool with a pure eventcollection (missing historical ones) where you did not have to download an entire unwanted mod just to get them.

Very good suggestions so far!
 

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@Purpose:

Well, the idea is that some modding parties might take note of some of these events and include some of them in their mod.

Some of these events are in the SMEP mod (Which has my full endorsement):

-Edward does become a PA leader of the UK if the Germans occupy London and the Mideast, and agree to negotiated peace with the UK
-Greek Ultimatium is also included


The Emiken mod (which I find a little less stable) has a chance of Hess' mission acheiving peace with the UK.

For legal reasons, things such as Kristalnacht can't be included in the game. I'll leave it at that.

I've never seen Vlasov defect, and I wonder how CCIP deals with those chinese issues?

More ideas:

--Japan Surrenders when it loses N. Korea, Manchuria, Okinawa and it's hold on China.
--Austria and Romania should have better chances to resist fascist takeovers; they should not be a near certainty. As partial compensation, Belgium (which faced a period of martial law) would have some chance to go Fascist as well.
--Germany should be able to anschluss Austria even if they decline, they'd just take a dissent hit for it.
--Euskadi should declare independence in the SCW
--Germany should not stop gobbling nations if Poland is not their last fight. The Allies guarenteed Poland's existance, but not necessarily their borders. I'd suggest something about a 3 step progression--Danzig/Partial Land Grab/Reduction of Poland to a puppet state (Or Complete Annexation). In all likelihood, the Allies would DoW over this, but if they didn't (Human players might want to wait), I'd think that Lithuania and an unraveling of M-R pact is next.
--Doomsday Scenario needs serious revisions. Maybe an option to create West Germany and Japan against the Soviets? While the Soviets use the power of the Communist party in France and Italy to cause massive dissent in the war (40%)
Also, Nuclear bombs shouldn't cause dissent as they do in this game. The production of consumer goods would not have anything to do with repairing damage, and I'm not sold on the idea that A Bombs actually destroy the entire functionality of an army anyway.
 

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noobermenschen said:
SU gets the choice of giving up provinces gained from Persia event, or going to war with the Allies, triggering within a year of German defeat.

Already exists. Event 9362 in HOI2.txt. 8% chance every month (~50% chance after 8 months) after the USSR is not at war with Germany, Persia, the UK or the USA.

France given the choice of releasing Indochina (+dissent) or screwing over the Vietminh (+massive partisan levels in those provinces).

Sort of already exists, but instead of Indochina the countries are released separately around the historical dates. In fact, a lot of independence events were added for Doomsday, Egypt, Libya, Jordan, Israel (and the War that followed), Laos, Cambodia, Indonesia, etc.
 

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Jeandeloch said:
u could simulate this by clicking the prioritise button on ss units , yea ?


No no no, I meant like autmatically gaining the divisions (Das Reich, Totenkopf, and the Leibstandarte) without actually building them.
 

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MLG_FC said:
An event for the internment of Japanese-Americans in the U.S.
Ethnic cleansing is banned from the game.
 

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I think there should be an event that is a direct result of Sudentenland and Beck as the Chief of Staff. Because he got replaced over some arguements about that event. And they have events for Blomberg and Fritsch, so why not Beck?

Also if the Czechs decide not to cede Sudentenland perhaps we have the coup Beck planned with Halder, Witzleben, Brockendorf, Stulpfnagel, Hoeppner, von Helldorf, Hans Gisevius, Oster, Canaris, Hammerstein–Equord, Treskow and Goerdeler.
 
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unorthodoxt said:
I think there should be an event that is a direct result of Sudentenland and Beck as the Chief of Staff. Because he got replaced over some arguements about that event. And they have events for Blomberg and Fritsch, so why not Beck?

Also if the Czechs decide not to cede Sudentenland perhaps we have the coup Beck planned with Halder, Witzleben, Brockendorf, Stulpfnagel, Hoeppner, von Helldorf, Hans Gisevius, Oster, Canaris, Hammerstein–Equord, Treskow and Goerdeler.
Actually, there were several coup attempts throughout the war in Germany that I feel should be added (yours included).
 

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Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel and the subsequent Arab-Israeli War.

Also, even though the game ends in 1953, it would be interesting to see some Cold War events where things don't actually heat-up. Things like the US and the Soviet Union jockeying for power and influence throughout the Third World.
 

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Wobbler said:
Ethnic cleansing is banned from the game.

Yet the sanking massacre is in it.



I miss many Iron Curtain events.

Also alliances like NATO, UN and Warshaw pact.
 

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Short of historical events, the glaring fix that needs to be made in my mind is something dealing with Republican Spain. This is particularly relevant because Republican Spain so often defeats the Nationalists in the SCW in 1.2.

Some sort of event triggering war between Germany and Rep. Spain seems to make sense (50/50 chance maybe?) and then a year-long load of a basic Spain-conquering AI to be squeezed inbetween the Vichy events and the Yugo events. (You could probably add another front to the Yugo-Conquering AI to achieve the same effect, I'd have to look...)

It just seems to me that had Hitler not succeeded in Spain the first time, an opportunity to exact revenge AND gobble-up another chunk of Europe would be too tempting to pass up, at least 50% of the time, this is particularly true considering that Germany was quite keen on adding Nationalist Spain to it's alliance IRL.

In addition, this would have the added benefit of their being some risk of intervention in the SCW as a foreign power, a Republican victory would potentially be a bad thing for the allies (in the long run, but would not effect '36 decision making of course) and would add a little more thought into busting into the SCW on a whim...
 

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PackMan said:
Actually, there were several coup attempts throughout the war in Germany that I feel should be added (yours included).

Of course :p

However that has a limited trigger that can happen. After the war starts the game can go very unhistorical. So it is a pretty good event to have :D
 

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-Arrow Cross Party coup d'état in Hungary
-Otto Skorzeny kidnap Governor Miklós Horthy's son, to blackmail him.
-Suicide of Adolf Hitler and Joseph Göbbels.
-Nurnberg Trial

and a lot more evet for the minor ones.

It would be so cool to create a huge event pack.
 

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lionhead said:
Yet the sanking massacre is in it.



Because it wasn't a act of racial superiority over a "sub-human" ethnic group, it was a military precaution taken by the Japanese. It was more or less trying to take out supposed Nationalist Soldiers dressed up as civilians and if we all remember the Vietnam War...we know how it becomes a bomb waiting to happen.


From Wikipedia

"Although the executions began under the pretext of eliminating Chinese soldiers disguised as civilians, a large number of innocent men were wrongfully identified as enemy combatants and killed, or simply killed in any event as the massacre gathered momentum."
 

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I.C.ram said:
-Arrow Cross Party coup d'état in Hungary
-Otto Skorzeny kidnap Governor Miklós Horthy's son, to blackmail him.
The first is already in. Find it in coups_hoi2.txt id = 183

The second has little relevance. I know we learn it at school that Horthy was hesitant in surrendering/switching sides because his son was kidnapped. I have read two books on wwii in Hungary. One explicitly says that it had little bearing on the events, the other did not mention the whole incident.
Simply put when Horthy issued the order to lay down the arms, most of the military high ups just refused to obey (or arrested those who would).
 

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Slaughts said:
No no no, I meant like autmatically gaining the divisions (Das Reich, Totenkopf, and the Leibstandarte) without actually building them.


Isnt that just being lazy. Events that give free units, that appear out of nowhere
 
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