If you don't have any handy reconquest CB options, vassal feeding is still good. There's a lot of tags in that area that are small enough to force-vassalize, and feed cores to. Even if they're disloyal, as long as they don't declare for independence, they still help you swallow clay.
Too far behind in a True Heir of Timur run?
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I thought my independence war with all of his subjects except the one with an Afghan core would have broken Timmy, but here it still is with a lot of allies, is rivaled to me, and is someone annoying I cannot forget still exists over there.
Ugh, it might be GG again. Can someone help me figure out this?
I did manage to chunk Delhi and eliminate Malwa, but apparently forgot to properly ally Gugurat before they were eaten, and the war where I took most of Delhi's development finally formed a proper coalition backed by my rival Bahmanis.
Unknowingly to me, using favours to break an alliance (with Bengal) set a truce meaning I can only start chunking Bahmanis indirectly. Somehow despite lower development they absolutely dominate me army and economy-wise, and even Bengal and me together are inferior. AI being AI it may still be winnable though.
The high autonomy from being recently annexed is probably it, but I'm lowering it as fast as I can. The Gugurat peninsula seems to be the only remaining avenue of attack against the coalition and other truces.
I do at least have a third nation to reset the Delhi truce timer with, for whatever that may be worth at this point.
I did manage to chunk Delhi and eliminate Malwa, but apparently forgot to properly ally Gugurat before they were eaten, and the war where I took most of Delhi's development finally formed a proper coalition backed by my rival Bahmanis.
Unknowingly to me, using favours to break an alliance (with Bengal) set a truce meaning I can only start chunking Bahmanis indirectly. Somehow despite lower development they absolutely dominate me army and economy-wise, and even Bengal and me together are inferior. AI being AI it may still be winnable though.
The high autonomy from being recently annexed is probably it, but I'm lowering it as fast as I can. The Gugurat peninsula seems to be the only remaining avenue of attack against the coalition and other truces.
I do at least have a third nation to reset the Delhi truce timer with, for whatever that may be worth at this point.
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How it is possible you have only 23 income with over 500 dev? There is something really wrong with your economy and it's not just high autonomy.
You can divert Punjab's trade power, it costs 30 liberty desire but you can reduce it by developing or prestige.
I have no idea how to help you now but it seems like Punjab is the bad idea, not only because of missions but because Lahore is important source of income - rich trade node and high dev provinces with expensive goods.
If you decide to do the next run just take Herat and give most of the provinces to your allies - low dev provinces with wool and without CoTs don't help you.
You can divert Punjab's trade power, it costs 30 liberty desire but you can reduce it by developing or prestige.
I have no idea how to help you now but it seems like Punjab is the bad idea, not only because of missions but because Lahore is important source of income - rich trade node and high dev provinces with expensive goods.
If you decide to do the next run just take Herat and give most of the provinces to your allies - low dev provinces with wool and without CoTs don't help you.
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Yeah Punjab, or at least letting it get that big, seems have been a bad idea not just in that regard but in that it delayed forming the Mughals without having to also deal with a mountain of liberty desire to quash. I can and will integrate them quickly.
In the earlier screenshots several high dev Delhian provinces were still coring. Once they were done plus an autonomy lowering all-the-things empire-wide did get me much closer, but still a ways below. I should've waited just a bit longer before making that post.
I was able to win that coalition war that included Bahmanis surprisingly easy - mountain forts in Afghanistan were quite effective at locking down large stacks pointlessly - and it took only a single merc mega-company to take care of the rest with Bengal's help. I released two more vassals with lots of cores in Bahmanis, including Gugurat, and unlocked the next level of Mughal missions.
The new problem is that I'm sitting at 96% towards the peasant war disaster. At 10 loans already I cannot bankroll a new merc uber-stack without some further debt, and being over 25% overextension from crushing the coalition had me searching for releasables until I found one with good Bahmanis cores. My ally and minions are strong enough I can do my next immediate war, which is to truce-reset Delhi from 15 to 5 plus taking $$$, without having to involve a single of my units. After that is cleaning up the Gurgurati peninsula which will include slugging it out with Bahmanis again. I have no doubt I can win that war at this point, but it will require firing that disaster.
As far as disasters go it looks quite mild, and in fact some of the event options look even quite good - I need manpower more than stability. I'm not sure how I'll come up with 4 stab worth of spare admin points to ever get out of it though, but I have no clue how to get to 50% manpower without taking several years off conquesting to get it ticking back down.
That disaster is about all I see from stopping me from constant war. I'm otherwise just barely short of maintaining a constant force greater than any other in India. 48 years to go.
In the earlier screenshots several high dev Delhian provinces were still coring. Once they were done plus an autonomy lowering all-the-things empire-wide did get me much closer, but still a ways below. I should've waited just a bit longer before making that post.
I was able to win that coalition war that included Bahmanis surprisingly easy - mountain forts in Afghanistan were quite effective at locking down large stacks pointlessly - and it took only a single merc mega-company to take care of the rest with Bengal's help. I released two more vassals with lots of cores in Bahmanis, including Gugurat, and unlocked the next level of Mughal missions.
The new problem is that I'm sitting at 96% towards the peasant war disaster. At 10 loans already I cannot bankroll a new merc uber-stack without some further debt, and being over 25% overextension from crushing the coalition had me searching for releasables until I found one with good Bahmanis cores. My ally and minions are strong enough I can do my next immediate war, which is to truce-reset Delhi from 15 to 5 plus taking $$$, without having to involve a single of my units. After that is cleaning up the Gurgurati peninsula which will include slugging it out with Bahmanis again. I have no doubt I can win that war at this point, but it will require firing that disaster.
As far as disasters go it looks quite mild, and in fact some of the event options look even quite good - I need manpower more than stability. I'm not sure how I'll come up with 4 stab worth of spare admin points to ever get out of it though, but I have no clue how to get to 50% manpower without taking several years off conquesting to get it ticking back down.
That disaster is about all I see from stopping me from constant war. I'm otherwise just barely short of maintaining a constant force greater than any other in India. 48 years to go.
Any chance you can come up with enough spare mil points to slacken recruiting standards into 50% manpower? Maybe combined with a short break from war?
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It's army professionalism for that unfortunately which I have none of left.
As to a war pause, that I can definitely do especially as my next war doesn't even require me to to active - my ally and minions can handle it themselves. Not sure the break will be long enough for the manpower, but I'll definitely be able to get rid of a lot of the loans though.
I do have all 4 remaining major players in India either on life support, or hating each other. About where you want to be diplomatically at least at this point.
I was thinking since you get 1 army professionalism for hiring a general if you’re up to date on mil tech you might hire some generals to get enough professionalism. If you’re close enough after the pause for one slacken to do it then might be worthwhile. Plus with a little luck you’ll get a couple good generals out of it.It's army professionalism for that unfortunately which I have none of left.
As to a war pause, that I can definitely do especially as my next war doesn't even require me to to active - my ally and minions can handle it themselves. Not sure the break will be long enough for the manpower, but I'll definitely be able to get rid of a lot of the loans though.
I do have all 4 remaining major players in India either on life support, or hating each other. About where you want to be diplomatically at least at this point.
Manpower is a luxury good in india. Also instead of spamming generals, better barrage forts. Just accept that you will have 1-2 full merc armies running around constantly. Furthermore consider destating afghanistan and trun it all into TCs.
What idea groups do you have? But overall it seems doable.
What idea groups do you have? But overall it seems doable.
I have one new idea for this achievement and i think it should work. It requires starting as Transoxiana but you will get most of Persia without AE.
To get this achievement you need to start as Afghanistan, Sistan, Transoxiana, Khorasan, Fars but you can play as a released vassal so the goal is to get independence and take all the land for yourself. After the independence war you trucebreak the Timurids and take more land. After the second war you trucebreak again and annex Timurids. You move capital to 3 dev province and play as released vassal Timurids. New Timurids can get this achievement and have all of their starting cores on former vassals and Ajam. It doesn't matter what happens to Transoxiana after wars because you play as a new nation. With savecumming it is even possible to get good ruler as Timurids. I think before 1460 it is possible to have 500-600 cored dev in Persia, that makes run a lot easier.
Starting as Transoxiana is the best because at least one province in the Altaic culture group is required to release Timurids and others have only Persian culture group
To get this achievement you need to start as Afghanistan, Sistan, Transoxiana, Khorasan, Fars but you can play as a released vassal so the goal is to get independence and take all the land for yourself. After the independence war you trucebreak the Timurids and take more land. After the second war you trucebreak again and annex Timurids. You move capital to 3 dev province and play as released vassal Timurids. New Timurids can get this achievement and have all of their starting cores on former vassals and Ajam. It doesn't matter what happens to Transoxiana after wars because you play as a new nation. With savecumming it is even possible to get good ruler as Timurids. I think before 1460 it is possible to have 500-600 cored dev in Persia, that makes run a lot easier.
Starting as Transoxiana is the best because at least one province in the Altaic culture group is required to release Timurids and others have only Persian culture group
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No more than 15 years is all that time? And from 500 dev without unrest and autonomy I can get more money and manpower than from 300 dev in India with unrest and autonomy. Will you get more than that in India before 1460? Remember that I don't care about starting country so I don't have to wait for coring, AE doesn't matter (also going over diplorelations as Transoxiana - if everyone near me is allied than they will have truce after breaking the alliances and can't join coalition), it's just destroying Timurids as fast as possible.
This is how Transoxiana into Timurids looks like in march 1449 using such strategy. High crownland co I can give all privileges for mana and gov capacity, 268 dev. With legitimacy and stability unrest isn't a problem. I just need to get stability to -2 and declare independence. The only problem is I start with -3 stab and 0 monarch points. Transoxiana has a big coalition but with stability 100% liberty desire I can declare independence during the war so it isn't bad
