Tomorrow at 19:00cest - Crusader Kings 2 Charlemagne Gameplay Premiere

[unmerged(1823)]

But it is the most expensive one right?

No. Iirc its on rajas level in price.

 

[gothos]

One thing's for certain, it's high time to finish my Roman world conquest before the patch hits. Or play on previous patch.

This looks... interesting at least. Best part is customizable titles. As for the rest.... I don't know. We'll see when we play it.

 

[LFA]

hello guys, I missed the stream and won't be able to view it for a couples of days, could you sum up what news we could get from this ?
Any new cultures we hadn't seen yet ? New mecanics ? Does it looks good ? High hopes.

 

[darthfanta]

The devs didn't include the Merovingians not to mention not knowing what they are? WTF?

 

[Mackus]

No? Which source do you use? Charles is NOT the Frankish version of Charlemagne.

http://www.infernaldreams.com/names/Europe/Medieval/Franks.htm
http://www.just-think-it.com/sbn/franks-m.htm
Was "Karl" even used by Franks at this time? this:
http://www.behindthename.com/name/charles
States that Charles came from germanic Karl, and that Charlemagne popularized it, but does not explicitly stats that franks used it in this or that form, at that time. When exactly Karl become Charles? Did the switch happened before or after life of Charlemagne? Was there any transitioning period with Charlo or Karlo or something like that? By the way cultural events happen now, frankish is one generation away from changing from germanic to latin group, so it must be quite romanised at this point in game. 400s franks would use Karl, but 700s? Not so sure.

 

[Hackworthy]

The devs didn't include the Merovingians not to mention not knowing what they are? WTF?

The devs are not the researchers. They're not historical experts, they're the ones who make the game run.

 

[theKing1988]

http://www.infernaldreams.com/names/Europe/Medieval/Franks.htm
http://www.just-think-it.com/sbn/franks-m.htm
Was "Karl" even used by Franks at this time? this:
http://www.behindthename.com/name/charles
States that Charles came from germanic Karl, and that Charlemagne popularized it, but does not explicitly stats that franks used it in this or that form, at that time. When exactly Karl become Charles? Did the switch happened before or after life of Charlemagne? Was there any transitioning period with Charlo or Karlo or something like that? By the way cultural events happen now, frankish is one generation away from changing from germanic to latin group, so it must be quite romanised at this point in game. 400s franks would use Karl, but 700s? Not so sure.

No Germans would use Karl. 400s and 700s Franks would use Karol. Which it is quite ridiculous that the devs haven't used on Charlemagne too, now that they've gone through the trouble of creating a Frankish culture.

 

[astartes906]

It seems to me the frankish name of charlemagne was karolus, and because he didn't know how to whrite, he use this monogram for his name
Charlemagne is the french version of "karolus magnus" literally "charles the great"

 

[theKing1988]

Karolus/Carolus is the latin Version of Charles, not the Frankish

 

[MarkS00N]

The devs are not the researchers. They're not historical experts, they're the ones who make the game run.

It seems people didn't watch the previous streams of Paradox...
One is coder while the other one is 'the video maker' and has nothing to do with code (he still isn't the historical though, though)...

 

[Kljunas]

The devs are not the researchers. They're not historical experts, they're the ones who make the game run.

I don't blame them, but they could have gotten someone who knows history on the stream. At least one of the devs made the bookmark, so surely that person would have some knowledge of the time period.

 

[astartes906]

Karolus/Carolus is the latin Version of Charles, not the Frankish

So why did he use this monogram himself (or his scribes whe don't really know) ? And talking about latins where are romans ?

 

[Kljunas]

So why did he use this monogram himself (or his scribes whe don't really know) ? And talking about latins where are romans ?

Because documents were written in Latin?

 

[Wolfmaster1979]

and it'll be time to start using /kill a lot given they removed the assassinate button due to the multiplayer SHFG brigade screwing everyone else over

They are learning from the EU4 crowd in terms of "balancing a SP game based on MP"

 

[astartes906]

Because documents were written in Latin?

You're maybe right.. But i'm not convinced.

 

[LumberKing]

It seems people didn't watch the previous streams of Paradox...
One is coder while the other one is 'the video maker' and has nothing to do with code (he still isn't the historical though, though)...

Definitely not aye. He's not completely clueless, but he does confuse one thing for another quite often (Nestorians for Mandaeans, Charlemagne for Napoleon, et cetera).

You're maybe right.. But i'm not convinced.

What? You do realise that the Carolingian renaissance revived the written Latin language, right?

 

[MarkS00N]

Definitely not aye. He's not completely clueless, but he does confuse one thing for another quite often (Nestorians for Mandaeans, Charlemagne for Napoleon, et cetera).

Oops, means to write 'not Historical Expert'...

Sorry A_Spec...

 

[Werther]

Is it true that we will not have cadet branches ? The only feature that i really want since the release...

 

[Chattus]

No Germans would use Karl. 400s and 700s Franks would use Karol.

Nope. The root is proto-Germanic *karilaz* or *karlaz*. Karol would be completely wrong on linguistic grounds.

 

[Jokolytic]

The devs are not the researchers. They're not historical experts, they're the ones who make the game run.

That doesn't require historical expertise. It's (almost) common knowledge.