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So, currently we have Arkona in Rana, Pruszkow in Plock, Tikhvin in Novgorod, Yuriev in Kiev and Husi in Birlad.

At first when seeing the screenshots I was outraged by Tikhvin and Yuriev, I mistakingly thought those were one of the new provinces added. (Since Yuriev is how Tartu was known back then and Tikhvin I thought is somewhere on the Finnish border.) Turns out those were just the names of holdings. So I appologise for my initial reaction. You were absolutely correct to place them in Novgorod and Kiev, kudos for that, lads. Now the only thing that is left to do is renaming Tikhvin to "Peryn'" and Yuriev to... dunno Lysa Gora or "Shekavitsa" (no English wiki entry, sorry).

Holy sites in Plock and Birlad are questionable, though, from a historical point of view. Yes, now we are aware, that historicity is not what devs had in mind in this particular instance. Anyways, keeping that in mind, allow us to present the following variants instead of those two:

1. Lower Silesia. This was most definitely a major holy site. The holding should be named "Ślęża" (since we use the Norse funny characters why not also use the funny Polish ones? And the Czech ones :p Cooler that way.) or "Slenja".

2. The next one is a tough one. Krakow and Sieradz were proposed and both are fine by me. But they are rather close to the previous one. If you, devs, don't mind this fact than by all means make either of those the holy site. If not - consider Sacz, Sandomierz or Pinsk, since the Pripyat' marshland is the most probable Proto-Slavic homeland with the most ancient Slavic hydromyns known. "Birlad" was a Slavic backwater and had a mixed population of Slavic tribes of Tiverians and Ulichians (which btw are not present in game, yes I'm looking at you PDS -.-), also Vlahs and steppe peoples. It just doesn't feel right to have a Slavic holy site there. And it's very close to Kiev too.

One more thing - could you make the West Slavic pic for religious holdings the same as Norse and East Slavic one? This would make more historic sense.

Since there most likely will be a patch soon, please PDS, make those cosmetic, but very pleasant changes.
 
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On a side note - in case anyone is interested in some soundrack while playing Slavs, here's a small playlist. No metal or stuff like that, only authentic old instruments. Very pagan-themed.

[video=youtube;dZWM6PNVvqo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZWM6PNVvqo[/video]
[video=youtube;vjF6uprZmKA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjF6uprZmKA[/video]
[video=youtube;onL7MN0uI1k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onL7MN0uI1k[/video]
[video=youtube;q67tU9WVISU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q67tU9WVISU[/video]
[video=youtube;lpmbs1zaUYQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpmbs1zaUYQ[/video]
[video=youtube;taJIgcic7tU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taJIgcic7tU[/video]
[video=youtube;1I8wBGcbeV4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I8wBGcbeV4http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I8wBGcbeV4[/video]
[video=youtube;yAvxWdALqck]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAvxWdALqck[/video]
[video=youtube;DgNfY3SZcEk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgNfY3SZcEk[/video]
[video=youtube;kPznzqkqm2g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPznzqkqm2g[/video]
[video=youtube;o5hKryKnwZM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5hKryKnwZM[/video]
[video=youtube;LB3zDAxbwCs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB3zDAxbwCs[/video]
[video=youtube;OWVHCSSZHmY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWVHCSSZHmY[/video]
[video=youtube;azX5FmJWgTk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azX5FmJWgTk[/video]
[video=youtube;yf29Bk5bbNw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf29Bk5bbNw[/video]
 

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I sign this petition, especially part about holding pictures :) It just feels wrong playing Slavic Poland with all those stone castles and churches...

Perhaps it would be correct to use East Slavic/Norse holding pics for all Slavs, except the Southern ones?

10th century Gniezno:

wczesne-sredniowiecze-grod-w-gnieznie-1-pol.jpg



10th century Kiev:

zv-jj-2.jpg
 

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cool music, I wonder if there is a way to make that background music?

but in either case I agree with all things that you posted :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZWM6PNVvqo&list=PL29tgpsFPpEqFZhs-NfeHVEpg9lWGOsFn

Just leave that open in the background, and turn off the in-game music.

It's what I'm going to be doing. Thanks for the links, Dragovit. I tried looking for traditional Russian music earlier but could barely find anything on Youtube. This is more than good enough though!
 

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I'll give it a thumbs-up, having differenciated culture and religions and more details (yes I do know it means more work for you, poor devs, sorry) is a good thing.
 

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Thanks for the links, Dragovit. I tried looking for traditional Russian music earlier but could barely find anything on Youtube. This is more than good enough though!

Nae worries. And there's basically no decent Russian traditional music on YT :c And thanks for that playlist!


I'll give it a thumbs-up, having differenciated culture and religions and more details (yes I do know it means more work for you, poor devs, sorry) is a good thing.

Completely off-topic, but sice you're apparently Breton, if you can be bothered, please listen to this Breton folk song (Pop Plinn/Ne Bado Ket Atao) played by a Russian band and tell me what you think (in terms of authenticity).
 
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Dragovit,
That group mervent is real good, they play and sing well, I'll keep an eye on them.
 

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I support this wholeheartedly.
 

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I support this whole heart steady too. :rofl: :D
 

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I don't care for petitions, but it would probably make more sense, so yeach - once PDS has some spare time, I will welcome them changes (I still think that it should be very close to impossible to reform slavic religon ;))
 

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...Birlad with Karnten.

Hmm...

Hmm, hmm...

Well, why not? After all, according to Nestor, Slavs originate from Noricum and Vindelica, and that's what where Slovenia is. The thing is - it's currently Christian and it could be a hassle to persuade PDS to change that region to pagan. BUt over all, it's another possible candidate. What would be the name of the holding, though? That's important. Currently the weird names of Slavic holy sites are not fun.


how about a holy site in carinthia? and maybe add the carinthian slavs as a culture?

What are famous religious places in Slovenia that could possibly be connected with paganism?