It will be on youtube tomorrow!
Nojust thinking of the massive increase in infantry equipment production I did last session. It's really saved me
Tomorrow??? :'(
A winter clothes event will be in most mods eventually.
Today at 14:30 CET - "how I learned to stop worrying and love the Russian winter"
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Tomorrow??? :'(
A winter clothes event will be in most mods eventually.
I think Daniel is looking Good Now, has some 250+ Divisions, though less than 10% are MOT/ARM/MECH, mostly level II foot infantry, but good solid ones, experienced ones too.
Even if a D-Day happens, it is certainly not going to be a cakewalk like the RL one instead it is going to be a second "Battle of Italy" type meat-grinder and shorter supply lines vs better air-forces for Johan should make it an interesting battle.
Also, Japan player did well, with the USSR and China ganging up, he managed to conquer Vladivostok and Beijing and Shanghai (some port for sure, not sure if it was Shanghai).
Even if a D-Day happens, it is certainly not going to be a cakewalk like the RL one instead it is going to be a second "Battle of Italy" type meat-grinder and shorter supply lines vs better air-forces for Johan should make it an interesting battle.
Also, Japan player did well, with the USSR and China ganging up, he managed to conquer Vladivostok and Beijing and Shanghai (some port for sure, not sure if it was Shanghai).
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How was the logistical situation with 250+ divisions? I assume that ~200 of them were in Russia?
No, only 80-85 in Russia, some 40 in Finland and Nordic lands and the balance i.e. over 100 in Germany and France.
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The last bar showed that the USSR would almost surrender, so he'd likely have to capture one or two important cities to be able to organize a treaty in Brest-Litovsk. Also, Stalin was a traitor to the soviet cause, who unrightfully took power for himself, but luckily comrade Trotsky deposed the evil tyrant
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Beating the Soviets in one campaign with only 85 divisions? That's a new one.
Without the USSR keeping Germany busy, and with Spain, Portugal, and Yugoslavia and their armies/navies all in the Axis, I honestly can't see the allies having an easy go at it whether they pick France or Italy. I think they'll fail an invasion of Europe., especially with Africa now in play because of Turkey.
On another note I really would like to see a WWW that properly shows Japan's naval potential. Ie. a Human play actually showing how possible an invasion of the US would be, or how hard it would be in HOI4. Or maybe even Japan/Germany invading the US with the aid of Mexico/latin America. The Americas are an area that I'm curious how the war could be taken to them and how realistic/difficult that would be.
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Ok, here is a load of replies from questions in the stream:
- None of the HOI games have union tags like in Victoria, they are cool tho so would love to add it one day.
do a decision to return the empire? Sort of like the annexation of Austria in hearts of iron 3
- Its the point a nation's government collapses and is forced into exile. Any local troops will lay down their arms and the rest of the area will surrender. If you are not in a faction at this point the game triggers a peace conference where the victors can decide what to do with you. If you are in a faction the attacker needs to beat the other major members to force a peace conference, meanwhile (if you have any) you can continue the fight in exile from colonies.
[2016-02-03 14:40:04] <GeneralMacek> @paradoxinteractive Can USSR turn into Tsarist Russia? And how does the AI work here? It is "semi-manual" or can I turn everything to AI?[/quote]
- HOI4 doesnt have togglable AI parts. Compared HOI3 we wanted a game where all parts are playable rather than having to give up control.
- Tsarist Russia I guess would be soviet ruled by neutral ideology, you'd need an event for that as antions can not move from communism to neutral ideology through normal play.
- For release we have focus trees for the main majors only. The generic focus tree is set up to fit different kinds of nations though. I suspect releasing more focus trees and country flavor is something we want to do though, there is a lot of cool stuff possible there
you can research doctrines to overcome this though (its part of the infiltration branch of grand battleplan). night also have a big impact on the air war, ships chance of finding stuff and such.
we ahve done a bunch of stuff since then tho to make interface better.
[2016-02-03 12:11:01] <chrisashesonline> I will not be able to see the live broadcast today
- None of the HOI games have union tags like in Victoria, they are cool tho so would love to add it one day.
do a decision to return the empire? Sort of like the annexation of Austria in hearts of iron 3
- Its the point a nation's government collapses and is forced into exile. Any local troops will lay down their arms and the rest of the area will surrender. If you are not in a faction at this point the game triggers a peace conference where the victors can decide what to do with you. If you are in a faction the attacker needs to beat the other major members to force a peace conference, meanwhile (if you have any) you can continue the fight in exile from colonies.
- We dont have custom dynamic client states (again would be cool in future development), you can however create Vichy France of course.
- I assume you mean airplanes. There is different experience points for each type.
- Manpower is mostly gained through enacting harsher conscription laws. So you get it in big chunks and its a resource that runs out. However you also get some every month from people coming of age and such. For occupied areas it depends on occupation laws how much you get, but its only a small part.
- No, just control over the area and troops, production and such are lost
[2016-02-03 14:40:04] <GeneralMacek> @paradoxinteractive Can USSR turn into Tsarist Russia? And how does the AI work here? It is "semi-manual" or can I turn everything to AI?[/quote]
- HOI4 doesnt have togglable AI parts. Compared HOI3 we wanted a game where all parts are playable rather than having to give up control.
- Tsarist Russia I guess would be soviet ruled by neutral ideology, you'd need an event for that as antions can not move from communism to neutral ideology through normal play.
- No, need ships to transport things that cant be dropped by parachute
- There are a number of different mapmodes which were showcased during the stream.[2016-02-03 14:41:45] <Ilikecookies9> @Paradoxinteractive quite difficult to recognice anything are there like a lot of different map modes like in eu4 hoi3? I mean in eu4 nobody uses the realistic one
- Yes, you could peace out if the war had gone on long enough
- If you research and produce better infantry weapons they get sent into the field as upgrades, just like vehiles. Or do you mean by spending experience? Thats only doable for vehicles.
- No, it only attacks enemy production and infrasstructure. Nukes hit national unity however.
- I think Italy is the best since it puts you in a position to test easy combat first, do buildup but not have to do the heavy pulling that germany does. Italy is also the country you play in our tutorial as well.
- Yeah if he wants to. I suspect it wouldnt be smart though. Johan has some powerful anti-tank divsions and Tigers are expensive. The way he plays I suspect its much better bang for buck to go for cheaper mass production.
- No, capitals are locked until taken. You dont have the problem like in HOI3 where stuff will instnatly collapse supply wise when capital moves though.
- Nope, but its something that would be cool to have one day.
- For release we have focus trees for the main majors only. The generic focus tree is set up to fit different kinds of nations though. I suspect releasing more focus trees and country flavor is something we want to do though, there is a lot of cool stuff possible there
- Hard to say, some players played HOI3 for month long campaigns, while I'v (with lots of AI autoamtion) beaten most of the world in an afternoon on speed 5 in HOI3. I guess the times we have played seriosuly its something like 2 whole days maybe? Its hard to answer while a game is in development.
- thats a weight off my shoulders then :3
- yes, in fact I would have loved to edit their savegame. I fixed a bunch of stuff yesterday that stops natiosn from hitting 100% in this way. 100% unity nations are pretty boring to fight.
- its random, but you can script it for bookmarks if you dont want that and make special ones. We prefer it random so that you cant cheat with hindsight.
- we'll talk details on this in a future diary on invasions
- Yes!
- penalty for attack at night rather
you can research doctrines to overcome this though (its part of the infiltration branch of grand battleplan). night also have a big impact on the air war, ships chance of finding stuff and such.- no, you should build equipment and give instead
- IMO the game is best in single player or small multiplayer (like 2-8 players) but you can play with like 25 players and have fun as long as you have some house rules (or enjoy a very ahistorical experience). This is personal preference though.
- you get a score screen 1948, but you can keep playing. I'v run a game to 1997 ;D
- no but you can keep track in the war overview screen
- yes
- Yes, see diary: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...velopment-diary-18th-of-december-2015.898240/
- The game will require Steam to install and update as with our other games. You can play it offline however.
- You can build land and coastal fortresses that give you defensive bonuses.
- The next one is unlocked when you place something in the previous slot.
- Yes. There is a tutorial that in my (BjornB) personal opinion is much better than previous ones. It is designed to help you get started, and you can continue playing it as a regular game after the tutorial bit is completed. It will set you up with a nice starting position.
- you will eventually run out of techs if you continue playing after the war, but imo this is better than game just ending whiel you are trying to do something.
- yes
- if you annex a nation you can grab
- The game is built on our Clausewitz engine and will support mods just as our previous games.
- no, but planes can help in naval combat
- no, all that is part of the focus trees now
- if some cool modders make a converter. The only way I would code and maintain that is if you gave me a million bucks.
- Ai does naval invasions quite often
- see diary: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...evelopment-diary-30th-of-october-2015.889096/
we ahve done a bunch of stuff since then tho to make interface better.
- you can toggle if allies see your plans or not (bottom right below mapmodes)
- dunno without seeing exactly what happend, is their supply actually getting through though?
- chances are it will trigger a capitulation if unity is low enough, but if not supply will be re-routed and likely worse.
- no its same cost
- I'd expect so
- yes under some special circumstances, or if the war hasnt started
- yes I think so
- yes if you do some national focuses you unlock the ability to
- there is resistance in areas you occupy which you will need to deploy military police o troops on if you want to benefit from them
- Yes
- No, not yet. Only the World War Wednesday Streams pretty much.
- Fight or ask him to stop?
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I guess you misunderstood me.
At the start of the offensive he had 125+ divisions and also some allied ones, approx. 20+, so nearly 145-150.
Now, having taken the major VPs, he has around 85.
In the www video Johan briefly pushes some buttons on one of his fleets. A popup is shown which reads something likeYou mean Operation Market Place?
We had the issue last week, that GB could send troops and ships through the Öresund. Looks like it is not restricted.
"Fleets in a coastal seazone on hold can bloack a strait".
I read it as a strait is not automatically blocked. You have to have a fleet in the strait. UK could then break the blockade by naval force which Johan apparently did. This could be prevented by Germany by flooding the airforce region with naval bombers. I recon UK would much rather withdraw from the strait then have IC costly naval forces sunk by, by comparison, low IC costly planes.
From HOI3 we are used to that straits are blocked if you occupy one of the sides. If HOI4 models you can pass straits with enemy occupied coastal provinces some sort of coastal gunfire attrition should be implemented (and building of coastal guns). That includes supply to the fleet going though the strait.
strait blockign is bugged ATM in the build they are playing so it doesnt work as intended
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Very helpful Podcat! Thanks for taking the time to go through all that!
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Ah so Johan shouldn't have been able to sail troops into the Baltic then?
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I am glad that the game is not near release. The game looks to be crippled with a totally ineffective AI at both strategic and tactical levels. Why would Turkey join the allies leaving itself open to an attack from Germany when it could ask to join if and when the Germans attacked it? Where was the Russian army? Either we missed it or Germany attacked Russia without using any airforces.
The supply system needs a major overhaul (or rebalance ) The German advance into Russia (or anywhere else ) seems to cause no problems at all.
The German advance into Russia seems to have been continuous without any effect on German unit organisation.
The supply system needs a major overhaul (or rebalance ) The German advance into Russia (or anywhere else ) seems to cause no problems at all.
The German advance into Russia seems to have been continuous without any effect on German unit organisation.
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Daniel ditched artillery, removed most support brigades and built-up a huge pile of infantry weapons and avoided the pitfalls of attrition, if Jacob had done the same, he wouldn't have been so successful.
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Was a nice stream, too bad it couldn't last a few min longer, so we could see the USSR fall.
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Podcat just stated: if you annex a nation you can grab.
Can I clarify this means produced equipment as well? And if so is it what's stockpiled or/ and what's in the surrendering divisions? Does this include ships and aircraft?
I have to say I'm intrigued by this possible revelation.
Can I clarify this means produced equipment as well? And if so is it what's stockpiled or/ and what's in the surrendering divisions? Does this include ships and aircraft?
I have to say I'm intrigued by this possible revelation.
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Will historically correct flags be included? My understanding is that national flags can change depending on the political makeup of the government, so does this mean the German and Japanese national flags are included for non-fascist governments? I'd prefer to have the WW1-era German flag than the censored WW2 version in the current screenshots, for example.
Just curious.
Just curious.