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[Klausewitz]

Depends on what 'old games' are to you.

 

[FOARP]

Old games was useally released as buggy as games today are, the difference is that now we can expect developers to patch the games which was not allways the case of old games.
Quality of games have actually increased in all areas in my opinion.

And we didn't even really think of most them as "bugs", just bad game design. Patching games to improve them (rather than fix problems) was completely new to me, and at the start was as much as a revelation as the idea of "patching" a film by re-shooting part of it post-release would seem now - a game was considered a finished product when it was released.

 

[Axe99]

Games released for the ZX Spectrum in the early 1980's required patching. You had to find the problem and patch them yourself, in BASIC. There was no golden era of perfect games.

Didn't suggest there was - I only made the claim that there was a particularly rough era for PC in the second half of the nineties into the early 2000s, which I'll still happily stand by. In terms of personal experience, console gaming from the early 1990s through to the launch of the PS3 would be the only time I'd claim there was a golden age in gaming. I played hundreds of games across that period and cannot recall one problem. A lot of devs and publishers bad-mouth the QA that the platform holders enforced, but it made for a far, far more enjoyable experience than I had in PC gaming during that time.

Anyways, it's getting a little off-topic. I was addressing the suggestion that games in general were releasing more buggy now than ever before, which I don't think is the case. I'm not suggesting games are releasing less buggy now than ever before (and things in the console space have stepped back a fair way as well, although they still haven't dropped to PC levels, which have improved from their darkest days) but that there's no noticeable increase in bugginess (particularly on PC, which is where HoI4 is releasing - where it could be argued things have improved if we're looking at a longer-term timescale).

On the by, I love the ZX Spectrum reference .

 

[Secret Master]

- "Mein Fuhrer, you must construct additional pylons!"

It's too bad I don't teach 20th Century history. I'd love to incorporate a line into a history lecture like that:

"Another reason for German losses at Stalingrad and Kursk involved an inadequate supply of pylons. Albert Speer had tried lobbying Hitler for more pylons, but he wouldn't agree. Moving on to our next topic..."

Just say it normally and keep talking without batting an eye. See how many students raise hands to question it.

 

[justin6477]

It's too bad I don't teach 20th Century history. I'd love to incorporate a line into a history lecture like that:

"Another reason for German losses at Stalingrad and Kursk involved an inadequate supply of pylons. Albert Speer had tried lobbying Hitler for more pylons, but he wouldn't agree. Moving on to our next topic..."

Just say it normally and keep talking without batting an eye. See how many students raise hands to question it.

Don't forget that such losses meant that the Caucasus region, and its vast supply of vespene gas, were denied to the German war machine

 

[Secret Master]

Don't forget that such losses meant that the Caucasus region, and its vast supply of vespene gas, were denied to the German war machine

Too true. The Maus placed an inordinate demand for Vespene gas on the Reich. Another reason to stick with the Panther.

 

[Chromos]

I think the importance of that gas is highly overrated.. :ninja: