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What's wrong with diplovassalizing? :0


Also killing off natives is bugged but doesn't actually harm the game + this bug happens 'only' outside of America.


But yeah, if you avoid forming countries (diplo range bug) you should be OK :p


...right?
 

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While usually my policy with DLC that add terrains (such CoP before this and RoI for CK2) usually to wait for some patch to pass before seriously play it, I tempted to play AoW as early as possible and to tell the truth, I don't have any issue with the patch...
So I guess I would say just try it and hopefully you are able to play it smoothly...
But if it turns out to be not as smooth as you wish, there is always option to roll back until the issues fixed...
 

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You will be fine if you dont tab out of the game, dont try to diplovassalise, kill off natives or form a different country tag..
Alt-tab works just fine for me. Not sure what the perceived issue is with diplo-vassalizing? And I tend to keep natives around.

So, tag switching appears to be the only one from this list. And it seems like a minor issue with distance calculation. And reloading should address that one (though reports vary and may require multiple reloads).

I would go with the beta/hotfix, though. And you might peruse the bug forum to see if any reported bugs are likely to fall outside your tolerance zone.


Try it. If you have performance issues or CTDs, go back to previous patch. Just start a new game so you don't screw your saves.
Yeah, even if you decide you don't like being a beta tester, you really should try it to determine whether you're among the Elite who can play with no significant performance issues, or one of the Unlucky Few who seems to be experiencing issues that really are game-breaking for them. No idea what the actual numbers/percentages are.
 

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Try it. If you have performance issues or CTDs, go back to previous patch. Just start a new game so you don't screw your saves.

Or, OR, toggle some graphical options to "no" to reduce demands on CPU.
 

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or one of the Unlucky Few

This is misleading. Those experiencing issues are not just few. It's a significant percentage of people + most players don't even use paradox forum but may still experience issues. The poor performance thread has 17 pages already, so I wouldn't say "it's just few people".
 

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Play but avoid countries that have territorial achievements cause i am not sure those are triggerin properly atm (e.g Sons of Carthage,Basileus etc).If you dont care about achievs then all the better :)
 

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This is misleading. Those experiencing issues are not just few. It's a significant percentage of people + most players don't even use paradox forum but may still experience issues. The poor performance thread has 17 pages already, so I wouldn't say "it's just few people".
Such was not my intention. Which is why I used terms like "elite" and "few" which BOTH imply small numbers. Perhaps I should have put them in quotes, instead of merely capitalizing them. Obviously my statement that I had "no idea what the actual number/percentages are" was insufficiently clear to communicate the fact that I have no idea what the actual numbers or percentages are.

So, the bottom line is that it's an unfortunate, major problem that is affecting an indeterminate number of players. The number is obviously "significant" enough to generate many problem posts. Anyone asserting that they know the numbers or that the percentage is known to be "significant" or "insignificant" is speaking from a position of ignorance.
 

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People are whiners, and the rest jump on the bandwagon. Just play it, it is fine.The bugs will be hotfixed out momentarily.
 

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If you want to play Iron Man and get achievements I would wait for a few hotfixes.

Most important is the "distance between borders" bug. When you release a country or form a country you will get relation modifiers of -20000 for distance between borders, even when you are next to them.
This is really major. I tried a Kongo game, supported rebels and released a big nation for them. They got the bug, broke our alliance, I got a -50 relations modifier so I couldn't ally them again and they allied my rival Mali. So instead of getting a new ally / future vassal I got a new enemy. The same happened in 2 other games so I will wait for a hotfix.
 

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I said this before but I have had no real issues with the patch or the DLC(in fact i think its a improvement). I see alot of post of people who do. I would be curious what the actual % of people who have "game breaking issues are. Obviously people who have issues are more likely to post out of frustration while those of us enjoying the game would be playing than posting.

Give it a whirl....