Manifest destiny and lebensraum
Originally posted by Rex Francorum
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I think all the CB system is false if we consider CB shields are located to what became these countries in 1792. But the goal of the game is not to repeat history. So CB should only be applied to provinces historically lost before 1492 or 1419 for EU2. For Brandenburg, Silesia is not an historical lost. For France, Roussillon, Lorraine are not historical lost. For Austria, Bohemia is not historical lost (Am I right?),etc.
What do you think?
I disagree. That is not why Paradox gave CB shields to countries. If your statement is correct, then why do the Ottoman Turks have cb shields all over Hungary? Did they ever own Hungary in the past? No.
CB shield is a province/area that a given nation feels should be part of their nation. They feel that there is some sort of social, ethnic, religious or spirital justification as to why those territories MUST be added to their nation.
This is the concept of Manifest Destiny (an American term).
Manifest Destiny in the frontier expansionist days of the USA is the reason why the original Eastern States decided that the USA must expand from east coast to the west coast (California, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, etc), mostly owned by Spain at that time.
The United States began as 13 original English colonies.? </expanded into a huge nation of 50 states. Why? Because those original eastern states had convinced themselves that the entire land mass, from the Atlantic coast to the Pacific coast, is their God-given destiny to own and possess. This is how states such as Texas were added (actually annexed from Mexico) into the United States of America. However, a few states were annexed in ways that can be described as opporunistic acquisitions rather than Manifest Destiny. Alaska is a perfect example because Alaska was simply purchased from Russia for a cheap price.
Manifest destiny is the same concept as to why the Czars of Russia were convinced that all the Slavic lands near them must be integrated into the Czar's empire. And later they expanded this view to believe that they were destined to inherit an empire that spans all the way to Siberia and Kamchatka peninsula (in Pacific coast). It is historically documented that many czars believed that India was destined to become part of the Russian empire. That's right. Several Russian czars believed that India was a land mass that was destined to be conquered and owned by the czar's empire. Maybe it started because one czar had a crazy dream that God told him to go conquer India?
But they never really accomplished this task.
Manifest destiny is a very similar concept to Hitler's lebensraum (living space). This means that Hitler had convinced his people (the society under his control) that the German people had a manifest destiny to annex and unify ALL the German-speaking lands in Europe. This includes Austria (which had never been "lost" by the Reich, because they never owned it in the past). More than that, lebensraum was the concept that Nazis used to justify the invasion of eastern europe and ADD those areas into the Reich so that the German speaking people will have more living room. This is part of the reason why Hitler and Stalin enjoyed conquering and partitioning Poland. So that both USSR and Nazi Germany would gain some extra "living room" at the expense of the Polish nation.
Why do the Ottoman Turks have CB shields over Hungary? had the Turks owned Hungary before 1492? No.
The Turks have CB shields over Hungary because the sultans are convinced that Allah had mandated that they conquer and capture these christian lands, possibly convert its people (like they did in Albania and Kosovo), thus adding their mass to the Ottoman Empire.
Every nation has its own reason as to why they feel they must expand on the territory of their neighbors. And many times, it has nothing to do with "previous ownership" of that territory.
The reasons are different and complex. There is never just one reason.
) in "Germany"! Quite spectacular, but realistic? I understand you point. But imagine, at furious level, within 50 years, you will have a german cannibalism...
