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Great update, hmm...a communist Spain...wouldn't that be weird.

And was that a real pic of Churchill and Stalin? I am not a WWII genius, but I didn't know they actually were ever in the same room. Maybe after the fall of Germany. Could someone please give me a brief history lesson on whether or not the Allies really trusted and wanted to work with Stalin?
 

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gamer15436 said:
Great update, hmm...a communist Spain...wouldn't that be weird.

And was that a real pic of Churchill and Stalin? I am not a WWII genius, but I didn't know they actually were ever in the same room. Maybe after the fall of Germany. Could someone please give me a brief history lesson on whether or not the Allies really trusted and wanted to work with Stalin?

That's a real pic, I'm thinking that its the Tehran or the Yalta conference, as the Western Allies and the Soviets met at Yalta and Tehran. There was also the Potsdam conference, but that had Harry Truman instead of FDR.

EDIT: I looked up the pic, apparently its from the Moscow Conference of 1942. Never heard of it before.
 

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Churchill certainly met Stalin, several times in fact. As did Roosevelt, Truman, and Attlee. Some of the pictures are quite famous. Churchill was not pleased with dealing with the man, but for the sake of Europe in a dark hour, he did. As for a detailed history lesson, well this isn't really the place for it, but you could ask on the history forums, or better yet there are many books on the subject of the alliance of convenience and necessity that took out the Nazis.

Now as for a picture of Stalin, Churchill, and Earl Long together.... well if Volga finds one of those I'll be quite impressed. :p
 

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gamer15436 said:
Great update, hmm...a communist Spain...wouldn't that be weird.

And was that a real pic of Churchill and Stalin? I am not a WWII genius, but I didn't know they actually were ever in the same room. Maybe after the fall of Germany. Could someone please give me a brief history lesson on whether or not the Allies really trusted and wanted to work with Stalin?

lol, sure would, but would make for an interesting story don't ya think :p


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That's a real pic, I'm thinking that its the Tehran or the Yalta conference, as the Western Allies and the Soviets met at Yalta and Tehran. There was also the Potsdam conference, but that had Harry Truman instead of FDR.

EDIT: I looked up the pic, apparently its from the Moscow Conference of 1942. Never heard of it before.

Me neither, but, it works :) Can't wait for your port by the way, interesting set up for the CSA in your AAR.


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Churchill certainly met Stalin, several times in fact. As did Roosevelt, Truman, and Attlee. Some of the pictures are quite famous. Churchill was not pleased with dealing with the man, but for the sake of Europe in a dark hour, he did. As for a detailed history lesson, well this isn't really the place for it, but you could ask on the history forums, or better yet there are many books on the subject of the alliance of convenience and necessity that took out the Nazis.

Now as for a picture of Stalin, Churchill, and Earl Long together.... well if Volga finds one of those I'll be quite impressed. :p

Exactly, Churchill will become very important later on in the story, or so I hope, as will Stalins and Churchill's 'relationship'. --- Give me a bit and I bet I could whip one up! Add in De Gaulle while i'm at it ;)
 

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Dunno why, but I feel that, if there is going to be WW3, it will start in the Spanish Peninsula...
 

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Dunno why, but I feel that, if there is going to be WW3, it will start in the Spanish Peninsula...

couldnt agree more
 

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Volga said:

Me neither, but, it works :) Can't wait for your port by the way, interesting set up for the CSA in your AAR.

I have no HOI2 experience right now, so I will be reading this to get a feel for the game as the CSA. I definetly want to be prepared in HOI2 strategy before I start my AAR.
 

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Volga said:

Exactly, Churchill will become very important later on in the story, or so I hope, as will Stalins and Churchill's 'relationship'. --- Give me a bit and I bet I could whip one up! Add in De Gaulle while i'm at it ;)

Yeah, I'm sure is possible these days. Gen-yoo-ine historical photos, courtesy of Adobe Photoshop. :rofl:
 

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yeah it is so hard to believe pics now with photoshop. i could make a realistic pic of me as president!
 

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[Troops on the way to the front]


By the end of March, 1942 Confederate, British and Russian soldiers were poised for the April Offensive. British troops along with Romanians and Russians had stalled the Germans in the Balkans and were ready to bring down the full force of the Allied Eastern Armies onto the German positions in a gamble offensive that would either make, or break the allies forever in the Balkans. In England and Norway; British, American, Canadian and Free French were gathering along with the Confederate air core for the largest naval and air maneuver of the war, aimed at liberating the Low Countries in an invasion of German occupied Belgium.

In Spain, the entire Confederate military under General George Patton and Stillwell prepared to strike into the rest of France. A total of over three hundred thousand men and tanks were standing at the ready to make the final push that would break the German armies in the west. Finally, the Soviets in occupied Poland were standing by to make the drive into Eastern Germany, after two major defeats costing the lives of hundreds of thousands of Soviet men, for the Russian troops, vengeance, would soon be at hand and they intended to show no mercy.

All together, the April offensive, or offensives, would involve three hundred thousands confederates, two hundred thousand British with one hundred thousand Commonwealth troops, fifty thousand Americans and four hundred thousand soviets, for a total of over one million men all together, the larges coalition of men ever assembled for one operation in history.

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[Soviet Propaganda poster in Spain]​

While the men were ready for action, and the generals ready to move, the leaders were busy squabbling over the new Spanish administration. Stalin, while agreeing to allied demands, began an underground war against democracy in Madrid, starting the workers sect of the city and the ghettos where the common man and factory workers lived. Through intimidation and promises of a ‘Better Spain’ under a Communist government that would right all the wrongs and turn Spain into a shining example of Communism at its best, aside from mother Russia that is, Communism began driving its roots deep into the very soil of Spain, settling in for the long haul.

Churchill, probably the most involved of the democratic allies, fired back with his own series of programs that directly assaulted communism as the next worst thing sense fascism, while keeping a friendly and warm façade on the surface.

As an underground war had already begun, the one that engulfed the entire world still raged on. On April 10th, 1942 the order was given for all Allied Forces, in the East and the West, to initiate Operation: Hammer, an all out drive for Germany on all fronts. Almost immediately, Patton and Stillwell’s forces broke out in an all out attack, encountering heavy resistance from the German occupying forces, initially, overwhelming them before being bogged down into a brutal war of attrition in the fields of Southern France.

Confederate forces were forced to slow the advance and take up defensive positions as Hitler ordered all armies in the area to intercept the advancing Confederate front, in an attempt to smash the southern allied drive. In the East, British and Romanian forces under Field Marshal Ismay launched the overwhelming successful assault against the weakened German positions in the Balkans, along with allied Soviet troops, and surrounded most of the major opposition near the boarder with Italy, who surprisingly, stood by as German forces were encircled and destroyed.

In Poland, Soviet Forces under Field Marshals Blucher and Poluektov pressed forward, using bloody wave tactics that saw the thousands upon thousands gunned down in the largest battles of the war. In particularly, the German counter attack into Latvia saw fifty thousand Soviets throw themselves at a forty thousand German army, meant to repeat the tactics that had served them so well in the past, and encircle the Soviet offensives. The larger Russian pressed on, loosing thousands against German positions before finally overwhelming the Germans, killing the entire army.

Soviet retribution would be worst crime of the war, ignored by the allies, as they mercilessly slaughtered German prisoners and showed no mercy what so ever against their enemy, be them military or civilian.

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Each front would draw more and more military forces away from the German homeland as Hitler assured the people that this attack would be turned back, like the ones before them. A massive military draft of anyone who could fight was initiated as the bodies piled up on each front in massive battles that resulted in nothing but a few miles of ground in either direction. Slowly, but surely, the allied Fronts advanced, as German soldiers were forced to fall back further and further into occupied territory. By the end of April, Confederate troops had pushed German soldiers back, occupying half of German occupied France and forcing German soldiers into a defensive position. On the Eastern Fronts, The British and Romanians had secured the Balkans and pushed the Germans back into Austria, while the Soviets were poised ready to strike at Berlin, the war, was coming to an end.

On May 1st, 1942, Italian Dictator Mussolini was shot and killed while delivering a speech in Rome by a Democratic ‘terrorist group’ supported by British Special Ops. Who over threw the government, ushering in a new age of Democracy in Italy, and effectively, knocking out all hopes of Germany using Italian boys to throw back the invaders from the east. Almost immediately, the new government cut off all relations from the world and went into isolation, using the military to build up on the boarders to ward away any invaders while they rebuilt the nations political system.

By Mid May, the final stike was ready to be made, from across the sea.


 

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What a great AAR! Finally, a CSA AAR that makes sense. Keep up the good work!
 

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Volga said:
Almost immediately, the new government cut off all relations from the world and went into isolation, using the military to build up on the boarders to ward away any invaders while they rebuilt the nations political system.

Let's hope that the Italians have something better than his army to defend his new system from any invader :D
 

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Wow, did the British AI successfully coup Italy?! That's great luck knocking them out of the war without trouble if that's what happened.

Great luck having an Italy as a Market Liberal/Social Conservative Democracy not looking to expand and get in the way whatever the circumstances...
 

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The seeds of WW3 seem to be well and truly sown well before ww2 is won.
 

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The Russians are looking less and less friendly by the minute... Bash the Bolshy, embrace the Hun!