Tizard mission

[Bambilambi]

One option I can choose as USA is "long term effects". But what does that do?
sadly doesnt say ingame...

 

[Achab]

It joins USA and ENG into a research group for radar and electronics only. Considering that prevents you to use the Technology Sharing focus ... never go with that option.

 

[Bambilambi]

to late

ah well.... another interesting question

also is there anyway to see how well the strategic bombers are doing in a region?
Basically how do i know when a region bombed out, so i can move to the next one.

I mean i can, in the airwar region, see the amounts of buildings bombed. But since i don't know the amount of buildings total in that region, it is kinda hard to know when to move on...

 

[DGuller]

You can click on the province and see the red vertical bars on the left.

 

[Dalwin]

to late

ah well.... another interesting question

also is there anyway to see how well the strategic bombers are doing in a region?
Basically how do i know when a region bombed out, so i can move to the next one.

I mean i can, in the airwar region, see the amounts of buildings bombed. But since i don't know the amount of buildings total in that region, it is kinda hard to know when to move on...

For MP games at least, the most essential targets for the bombers are the refineries. You can see exactly what is happening with those on the resource map. I think this is actually a poor design choice and should be changed. The attacker already has all the advantages in the whack a mole game that is HOI4 strat bombing. He should not also get perfect intelligence on the primary target.

 

[TallTroll]

>> I think this is actually a poor design choice and should be changed.

Why? IRL, building oil refineries is pretty visible, and I see no reason that nations shouldn't have a pretty good idea of where they all are. If you want to protect things from strat bombing, build them where enemy bombers can't reach, or provide enough fighter / AA cover to stop bombers getting through

 

[Dalwin]

>> I think this is actually a poor design choice and should be changed.

Why? IRL, building oil refineries is pretty visible, and I see no reason that nations shouldn't have a pretty good idea of where they all are. If you want to protect things from strat bombing, build them where enemy bombers can't reach, or provide enough fighter / AA cover to stop bombers getting through

It is about play balance. In real life bombers going to Berlin didn't get to skip all the squadrons in NW Germany, but in HOI4 they do. Everything in the current system favors the attacker. There is no reason they should get free and totally accurate intel as a bonus. Considering that the game does not give perfect intel on the results of bombing factories or airfields, why should refineries be a special case? There is really no reason for it other than design oversight. They simply did not consider what the resource map was revealing.

 

[Alex_brunius]

Considering that the game does not give perfect intel on the results of bombing factories or airfields, why should refineries be a special case?

The game does give pretty perfect intel on airfields and other non-shared buildings. If you click a province and zone you should be able to see exactly what level they are max and how damaged.

 

[TallTroll]

As regards skipping air interception, fair point.

As to intel, I'd disagree. A factory or airfield can look wrecked, yet be capable of operating at high efficiency, or look fine and yet be out of commission. Refineries on the other hand, are impossible to hide, and it's pretty easy to tell if they are working or not. Whether it's a design oversight or not, it's pretty representative. Now, "game balance" might be a good enough argument to make changes, but not a decisive one, I feel