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TLDR: Titanic Lifeforms can take over your colonies, be prepared if you anger them.

I have returned to Stellaris after a pretty long hiatus, patiently waiting for 1.5 now. I am playing a few games in the meantime, and it reminded me why I both love and hate the game sometimes.
In my latest games, I have found two planets to colonize, fairly close to my home system. One had more tiles, the ideal habitat, and the Low Gravity modifier, seemed ideal for an early expansion. The other one, which was in the same system, was smaller, only 60% habiltability, but plenty of resources and less tile blockers, and the Titanic Life modifier, so I went with that one as my first colony. I still had fond memories of my Titanic Beast armies, and the extra Society research is always useful.
Sure enough, I get the special project involving the study of the titanic lifeforms. Being a Xenophile empire, I chose the third option, to study them carefully in order to find a way to coexist peacefully, which is the most expensive, but safest route(to my knowledge). So, I put my Society research on halt and pump everything I can into this project, even activating the Society Research Grants policy(something I rarely do in my games), to finish as fast as possible. As soon as it was done, things started to rapidly go downhill.
Somehow, my scientists and researches messed up and I angered the giant aliens, because next thing I know, there are 3 Titanic Beast attacking my near non-existent planetary fortifications. I did have some assault armies ready on my capital, but they couldn't make it in time to stop the invasion. Now my beautiful colony is under the control of 3 angry titans. This wouldn't be that big of a deal if I hadn't already built a space stations, which is now also, somehow, under the control of the titans. It took out the nearby research station, then just stood there defiantly. Still relatively early in the game, and not focusing on military power that much, I stood no chance against a 1k space station, even with a maxed out fleet. At first I though, sure, it has a higher power than my fleet, but it's just one station, I can probably destroy it before it wipes my fleet out. Nope. I came close, but it just wasn't enough, and it can repair itself faster than I can throw new ships at it, so I either have enough to bring it down in one go, or I am just wasting my time. I wish I knew that when I tried the second time. I had better tech, destroyers to compliment my corvettes, bigger fleet, and the fleet was closer to the station's power, but I still just barely lost. At that point I was just, screw it, let's just land my armies and kill the titans, the station doesn't seem to fire on the transport ships, so why keep throwing my navy at it? Well, I forgot that garrisons were still a thing, so the already super powerful Titanic Beasts were taking 90% less damage from my armies. I quickly retreated before I lost all my troops, but the damage was already done. So, I need to bombard the fortifications before I can safely land my armies, but I can't really do that until I take care of that stupid Space Station. The cherry on top is the faction that formed on the colony due to the unhappy pops that live in fear of the titans. They want the planet to become an independent empire, but I can't grant that, because the planet is occupied, and no way I am wasting Influence on the suppression, I don't get anything from the planet anyway, so they can just go ahead and strike and riot, the titans won't care, and neither will I.
Did I mention I was on Ironman Mode, so there was no turning back to fix my mistake? I got so focused on trying to solve this problem, that I pretty much neglected proper exploration and expansion, colonizing other planets, and so on. Not to mention all the minerals I lost in the process. Right now I am torn between completely abandoning the game and just continuing and dealing with this later, because otherwise I had a pretty good start. I have two nearby empires who will have my back if my douchy expansionist neighbour tries to take advantage of my internal struggle and another empire who I signed a peace treaty with. I already have 5 out of 6 precursor artifacts, which is the luckiest I got in some time and completed most of the early game special projects. The only thing that really stops me from going is the embarrassment, thinking about all the resources I wasted on this stupid planet and the catching up I have to do.
At least next time I know to have armies ready to deal with the angry titans if things go awry, or the very least, dismantle the space station if it looks like the titans are winning. Yes, I tried doing that after the occupation, the options is there, but nothing happens once I click the confirmation. I can just imagine the 3 titans sitting there in my modern fortifications, somehow controlling the space station remotely, laughing at me, the stupid puny alien, who just wanted to make friends with them. Next time, I am rolling a xenophobe, militaristic empire.
 

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Oh, I didn't realize this was an unintended feature, I just wanted to share my story (and frustration). It's good to know that at I least it wasn't just me who was having problems with titans. Considering how close I was to taking care of the station the last time, I think I will just bide my time, recover, and come back with a stronger fleet. As I was writing this article, I realized that hope is not lost and I shouldn't abandon my game.
 

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Believe me, I know the feeling. One of the only times Stellaris has gotten me frustrated enough to quit the game, as it was early game and conquering the planet was impossible.

This accidentally happened in yesterday's dev stream, where Wiz showed that the titans won't gain the bonus anymore. Best part of the stream imo.
 

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Nice, I forgot all about Extraterrestrial Thursday. I am watching it now, I really want to see that part, what a happy coincidence. Honestly, if garrisons are no longer a problem, then that's enough to deal with angry titans, even if the station remains hostile to my navy. At least I won't have to rebuild it once I am done.
 

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You need a bit of luck with research, but I have found that the best way to deal with titan dirtside is to hit them with psionic armies. Titan made mincemeat out of my regular grunts, but psi Corps quickly destroyed their morale and after that they fight with a huge malus.
 

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Thankfully the stream showed that the fortifications have been fixed but the tooltip was still wrong.

You need a bit of luck with research, but I have found that the best way to deal with titan dirtside is to hit them with psionic armies. Titan made mincemeat out of my regular grunts, but psi Corps quickly destroyed their morale and after that they fight with a huge malus.


Yes, I just watched that stream, I am glad about that change. Hopefully I will get back my planet by the time I reach psyonics, I really don't want to wait that long or rely on luck. On the stream he used 47 armies(not sure if they had anything special) to beat the 3 titans, but it was pretty much overkill, so I will probably try with about half that. Of course, in this patch, I will first have to remove the station and patiently bombard the fortifications first with a navy that can't go above Light bombardment due to ethics. It's ok though, I like a challenge, and it's something new for me, never happened in my other games.
 

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Ok, a bit of an update. I got myself a federation pretty soon after resuming my game. With two fleets in tow, I finally took out that nasty star port. Unfortunately, it looks like I can't bombard my planet, so I can't reduce the fortification. This means those stupid titans will reap all of the benefits. I guess I got through the hard part, but it's going to be a looooooooooong siege. At least I didn't research any garrison upgrades when the planet was taken over.

Sure the titans might not get the fortification, but will the planetary militias serving under their giant overlords?

Good question. It doesn't look like the titans build any armies, so I doubt it, but I do have two other slots for "potential armies", they might get it.
 

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TLDR: Titanic Lifeforms can take over your colonies, be prepared if you anger them.

I have returned to Stellaris after a pretty long hiatus, patiently waiting for 1.5 now. I am playing a few games in the meantime, and it reminded me why I both love and hate the game sometimes.
In my latest games, I have found two planets to colonize, fairly close to my home system. One had more tiles, the ideal habitat, and the Low Gravity modifier, seemed ideal for an early expansion. The other one, which was in the same system, was smaller, only 60% habiltability, but plenty of resources and less tile blockers, and the Titanic Life modifier, so I went with that one as my first colony. I still had fond memories of my Titanic Beast armies, and the extra Society research is always useful.
Sure enough, I get the special project involving the study of the titanic lifeforms. Being a Xenophile empire, I chose the third option, to study them carefully in order to find a way to coexist peacefully, which is the most expensive, but safest route(to my knowledge). So, I put my Society research on halt and pump everything I can into this project, even activating the Society Research Grants policy(something I rarely do in my games), to finish as fast as possible. As soon as it was done, things started to rapidly go downhill.
Somehow, my scientists and researches messed up and I angered the giant aliens, because next thing I know, there are 3 Titanic Beast attacking my near non-existent planetary fortifications. I did have some assault armies ready on my capital, but they couldn't make it in time to stop the invasion. Now my beautiful colony is under the control of 3 angry titans. This wouldn't be that big of a deal if I hadn't already built a space stations, which is now also, somehow, under the control of the titans. It took out the nearby research station, then just stood there defiantly. Still relatively early in the game, and not focusing on military power that much, I stood no chance against a 1k space station, even with a maxed out fleet. At first I though, sure, it has a higher power than my fleet, but it's just one station, I can probably destroy it before it wipes my fleet out. Nope. I came close, but it just wasn't enough, and it can repair itself faster than I can throw new ships at it, so I either have enough to bring it down in one go, or I am just wasting my time. I wish I knew that when I tried the second time. I had better tech, destroyers to compliment my corvettes, bigger fleet, and the fleet was closer to the station's power, but I still just barely lost. At that point I was just, screw it, let's just land my armies and kill the titans, the station doesn't seem to fire on the transport ships, so why keep throwing my navy at it? Well, I forgot that garrisons were still a thing, so the already super powerful Titanic Beasts were taking 90% less damage from my armies. I quickly retreated before I lost all my troops, but the damage was already done. So, I need to bombard the fortifications before I can safely land my armies, but I can't really do that until I take care of that stupid Space Station. The cherry on top is the faction that formed on the colony due to the unhappy pops that live in fear of the titans. They want the planet to become an independent empire, but I can't grant that, because the planet is occupied, and no way I am wasting Influence on the suppression, I don't get anything from the planet anyway, so they can just go ahead and strike and riot, the titans won't care, and neither will I.
Did I mention I was on Ironman Mode, so there was no turning back to fix my mistake? I got so focused on trying to solve this problem, that I pretty much neglected proper exploration and expansion, colonizing other planets, and so on. Not to mention all the minerals I lost in the process. Right now I am torn between completely abandoning the game and just continuing and dealing with this later, because otherwise I had a pretty good start. I have two nearby empires who will have my back if my douchy expansionist neighbour tries to take advantage of my internal struggle and another empire who I signed a peace treaty with. I already have 5 out of 6 precursor artifacts, which is the luckiest I got in some time and completed most of the early game special projects. The only thing that really stops me from going is the embarrassment, thinking about all the resources I wasted on this stupid planet and the catching up I have to do.
At least next time I know to have armies ready to deal with the angry titans if things go awry, or the very least, dismantle the space station if it looks like the titans are winning. Yes, I tried doing that after the occupation, the options is there, but nothing happens once I click the confirmation. I can just imagine the 3 titans sitting there in my modern fortifications, somehow controlling the space station remotely, laughing at me, the stupid puny alien, who just wanted to make friends with them. Next time, I am rolling a xenophobe, militaristic empire.
I had bad experiences with Titans too. I started the event chain, intending to try to communicate with them, but this angered them and they attacked. Luckily I had a few dozen armies in orbit overhead (I had created the colony to act specifically as a staging ground for an invasion on another empire, so this is only semi-coincidental) and landed them all, massacring the titans with no losses. While a complete military victory, I was really looking forward to communicating with the titanic life.
 

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I had bad experiences with Titans too. I started the event chain, intending to try to communicate with them, but this angered them and they attacked. Luckily I had a few dozen armies in orbit overhead (I had created the colony to act specifically as a staging ground for an invasion on another empire, so this is only semi-coincidental) and landed them all, massacring the titans with no losses. While a complete military victory, I was really looking forward to communicating with the titanic life.

Yeah, too bad, who knows, the titans could have actually helped in your invasion. In another playthrough, I did manage to get them on my side and they were a welcome addition to my less-than-friendly expansionist empire. Heck, in one of the invasions, I underestimated the strength of the defending army, and in the end, only the 3 titans were left standing, and they managed to clean up the remaining defenders. They certainly have their uses, if you are willing to take the risk. Which reminds me, in anther game, as a xenophobic empire, I had to option to eat them(or at least their corpses, like a scavenger) and get a huge food bonus. Based on previous experiences, no way I was going to pick that. I'd like to think that my people hated aliens, but weren't exactly suicidal.