Tips on how to proceed

[lordofzwergs]

I just started an OE GC. The rules I play by are; 1) My tech research has to be reasonably balanced, no tech rushing anything 2) If I do end up colonizing, it'll only be in Africa 3) No cheats, except for oranje, because constantly changing my stability slider is tedious, and this game throws a stab hit at you every other second (some instances of which I simply don't agree should have that effect to begin with). It's 1422, I have a rather bad reputation. Immediately, Candar had DoWed Trebizond, so I DoWed Candar. I only had to fight the troops they built later in their province. Also, I noticed Athens and its local alliance DoWing Byzantium. I don't like strange borders, so having Morea would have annoyed me, but now I could DoW Byzantium and annex them straight out, hopefully. The war with Byzantium ends first as Athens takes Morea and I take Thrace. I get +2 centralization (in addition to the +1 from policy change) from the events. I also DoWed Trebizond when I got another diplomat. Candar doesn't try to break the siege on their city, so I just wait for me to take, which happens after a little while. I annex Candar, and voila, a free sieging army in Trebizond. After that is finished I annex Trebizond. Ak Koyonlu invites me into an alliance, and I humbly except, following with a royal marriage proposal. My intent is to diploannex the arabs, which is more in my style. I was thinking about getting Karaman, Ak Koyonlu, Qara Koyonlu, and with luck Mameluks this way. I now have infra tech 1, so I take out a few loans to maintain my army and get tax collectors. I figure if I get tax collectors in all of my provinces, I might be able to maintain my army, and eventually get a positive income so I can pay off my loans. It'll be rough for a while. Now, are there any tips you can give me on achieving my plan, or a better plan even?

 

[unmerged(4344)]

You might want to read my notes on OE at the wiki. Big article.
http://www.paradoxian.org/eu2wiki/index.php/Ottoman_Empire

If I was you, I wouldn't be annexing anyone except Byzantium. It costs too much badboy. But as long as you're not on very hard, should be acceptable.

Loans for promoting TCs are OK, but not for other things. You should make sure your army is at or beneath your support limits, though.

You don't want AkKs or anyone else leading your alliance. THe alliance leader controls peace negotiations, meaning, AkKs make peace for you. AIs are stupid, and don't make peace well. But... once you build up some diplomats, cancel that alliance and reform it with you as the leader.

Diploannexing arabs is a fine idea. You get some super diplomatic monarchs for that.

 

[JTow]

I suggest weaning yourself of the oranj habit.

Stability might not strike you as reasonable or fair all the time but it is an integral component in how the game works and is balanced. Over the course of the game a huge amount of the player's energy is diverted or thwarted through this form of 'friction.' Without it - even with it just reduced - you will be overpowered.

 

[unmerged(49508)]

Just one tip. A lot of minors start with several hundred ducats in their treasury. Be sure to get the money before annexing them.

 

[unmerged(15247)]

I suggest weaning yourself of the oranj habit.

Stability might not strike you as reasonable or fair all the time but it is an integral component in how the game works and is balanced. Over the course of the game a huge amount of the player's energy is diverted or thwarted through this form of 'friction.' Without it - even with it just reduced - you will be overpowered.

and do me a favour and do not say the code for that specific cheat outllaud
playing as ottos AND with stabillity cheat gives absolute no satisfaction or any chalange unless is the first time you play them ( god knows i had my share of ottos in allmaps/mods, my fav nation in eu2 from the perpective of fully enjoing the game with all its perspectives intended )

 

[unmerged(15247)]

I just started an OE GC. The rules I play by are; 1) My tech research has to be reasonably balanced, no tech rushing anything 2) If I do end up colonizing, it'll only be in Africa 3) No cheats, except for oranje, because constantly changing my stability slider is tedious, and this game throws a stab hit at you every other second (some instances of which I simply don't agree should have that effect to begin with). It's 1422, I have a rather bad reputation. Immediately, Candar had DoWed Trebizond, so I DoWed Candar. I only had to fight the troops they built later in their province. Also, I noticed Athens and its local alliance DoWing Byzantium. I don't like strange borders, so having Morea would have annoyed me, but now I could DoW Byzantium and annex them straight out, hopefully. The war with Byzantium ends first as Athens takes Morea and I take Thrace. I get +2 centralization (in addition to the +1 from policy change) from the events. I also DoWed Trebizond when I got another diplomat. Candar doesn't try to break the siege on their city, so I just wait for me to take, which happens after a little while. I annex Candar, and voila, a free sieging army in Trebizond. After that is finished I annex Trebizond. Ak Koyonlu invites me into an alliance, and I humbly except, following with a royal marriage proposal. My intent is to diploannex the arabs, which is more in my style. I was thinking about getting Karaman, Ak Koyonlu, Qara Koyonlu, and with luck Mameluks this way. I now have infra tech 1, so I take out a few loans to maintain my army and get tax collectors. I figure if I get tax collectors in all of my provinces, I might be able to maintain my army, and eventually get a positive income so I can pay off my loans. It'll be rough for a while. Now, are there any tips you can give me on achieving my plan, or a better plan even?

u will inherit mameluks after 1500 depending what mod u sue; do NOT vassalize them ; full outright war

 

[Lord Finnish]

It doesn't actually matter of OE has big BB. Nobody dares to attack you as you are so big, except some optimistic Venetians.

 

[lordofzwergs]

Stupid Venetians and their stupid Vivaldi. How can a priest be Red?