Tips for cutting down war score?

[bly08]

If a country has 198 war score, and taking 100 WS of land will still leave it with 100+ WS due to the "size of nation" modifier, what can I do to minimize the amount of time needed to full annex? This is assuming the truce cannot be shortened and admin efficiency/ideas remain the same. The only thing I can think of would be to minimize the truce/land taken so that 3 wars can be fought as quickly as possible.

If I force the capital to a lower dev province, would that increase or decrease the overall WS in general? I'm guessing it would increase if the capital is above 15 development?

 

[Waffle Knight]

Occupy the country long enough for seperatists to spawn, then make sure to only conquer land they won't attempt to take back due to cores/culture.

 

[bly08]

That wouldn't save more time since occupied provinces take 5 years to flip

 

[TheMeInTeam]

IIRC war goal still gets the cost reduction, so if using a claim pick a high development province as the war goal.

That wouldn't save more time since occupied provinces take 5 years to flip

Not if you let rebels occupy several provinces, then take land that other than those several provinces. Rebels holding a majority of provinces in the country will break it once war ends, and depending on what you take this can erase the target nation and replace it with one with which you have no truce.

 

[bbqftw]

This is one of the narrow uses of conquest when holy war is available as you do get a 33% ish WS reduction on the wargoal in the former.

 

[Waffle Knight]

Not if you let rebels occupy several provinces, then take land that other than those several provinces. Rebels holding a majority of provinces in the country will break it once war ends, and depending on what you take this can erase the target nation and replace it with one with which you have no truce.

Exactly. You only need to wait for the seperatists to have 25+% of the total development occupied before you peace out due to this.

 

[Quaade]

IIRC war goal still gets the cost reduction, so if using a claim pick a high development province as the war goal.

You don´t need to pick highest dev for wargoal, if you pick conquest... Every claim you have will be part of the wargoal if you use conquest that is

 

[TheMeInTeam]

You don´t need to pick highest dev for wargoal, if you pick conquest... Every claim you have will be part of the wargoal if you use conquest that is

That's not true, the war goal province gets a significant reduction, I don't think the other claims get that but if they do it's smaller.

Doesn't whether the province is occupied vs not also impact the cost?

 

[bly08]

I would be using Holy War CB for all wars. Conquest isn't an option cuz I can't tank that much dip. Other considerations are if taking max WS leaves the country at 98-99 WS, it might be better to just plan for three wars since RNG from peacetime autonomy reduction/AI developing provinces might put it over 100 WS anyway.

The war goal province gets a 10% reduction I think. Occupation also decreases war score slightly though I forgot from what.

 

[Less2]

If there's some releasable nations with lots of cores you can take one province, release, and rely on Reconquest's 25% WS reduction for the 2nd war. Though if you're significantly in to absolutism territory this probably doesn't help since there's no way to use your modifiers IIRC.

Can always just wipe their army and hope an AI neighbor declares a conquest war as well.

 

[Quaade]

That's not true, the war goal province gets a significant reduction, I don't think the other claims get that but if they do it's smaller.

Doesn't whether the province is occupied vs not also impact the cost?

haven´t noticed that, have noticed that with conquest claims all with claims are reducted... Would also state that UI tells you that claims are part of the wargoal and list all provinces with claims... but I know how you feel about UI and also know that it can be misleading at times ;-)

 

[TheMeInTeam]

haven´t noticed that, have noticed that with conquest claims all with claims are reducted... Would also state that UI tells you that claims are part of the wargoal and list all provinces with claims... but I know how you feel about UI and also know that it can be misleading at times ;-)

Claims do give you 0 DIP cost in conquest wars, but as far as I can tell only the war goal province itself gets the big WS cost reduction. Per the wiki provinces cost 10% extra (capitals 20%) if not occupied, but not in DIP.

Nothing in the wiki suggest claims reduce war score cost when not the war goal; the CB itself has not reduction on WS cost for valid provinces (compare with imperialism for example) and nothing about unjustified demands increases it.

Claims are for less DIP spent, a bit less core cost, a bit less autonomy, and not much else. Better to have than not have, and if going humanist you need at least one, but there are often higher priorities.

 

[nwil10]

Which country are you attacking?

Assuming ypu are fighting France, one option would be to take a single province with Gascony as the a core and then maximize the ws from the remaing provinces your taking that do not have a Gascony core. After the war, you could release Gascony and declare a conquest CB and retake the Gascony lands. Dont use the reconquest CB because you'll be locked into only retaling land back and not straight conquest.

 

[nwil10]

Another option would be an idea from the Diplomacy idea group which reduces WS of provinces ehich would allow you to take nore development from each war.

 

[Kergan]

To shorten the truce, cancel alliances as you separate peace allies out. Then declare on one of the new allies asap, and white peace your target asap to shorten the truce from 15 years to 5-ish.

 

[pttaylor]

Capitals cost extra WS; don't take their capital until the last war, and the WS tooltip should be accurate - i.e. 198 would take 2 full wars.